Expertise - As seen from both sides of the fence. It is broken.

luckily the best gear for anyone with a clue is 450 expertise and the rest rakata gear

thats why ppl use 4set pve bonus and the rest pvp gear

the problem isnt expertise

it is people who cant even be arsed to remod their gear or put minimal effort into equiping their character

it takes 2 weeks of casual play time to get 2-4 columni pieces a couple of champion pieces and cent for the rest and u r good to go. do ur weeklie quests twice and u r fully geared - that means 18 warzones and some hours of afk in illum and that still is too much?

this game already gives out epics in an insanely fast rate and u guys want it faster? why dont they just put all battlemaster and rakata gear on a vendor for 1 credit each and get it over with - why do u ppl even play an mmo? because its so much fun playing the same 3 warzones just for the pvp?

u are not losing to full pvp gear ppl u r losing to ppl who put more thought and effort into their character than u did

ppl are quitting the game due to lack of content and u guys want stuff to be even easier amazing

the perpetual 'wah' train keeps chugging along. PvP and PvE both require progression. You aren't going to hit 50 and head straight into nightmare mode ops, so why would you hit 50 and be able to fair well against someone who's been 50 for awhile and has put effort into gearing themselves out? 'Effort' is the operative word here, less people seem to want to put in the time. It will take a whole 2 weeks or less to gear yourself out in centurion/champ gear, thats nothing.

Rated warzones, dont worry - I can assure you new 50's won't be competing against full BM teams, this should wein out the frustration of having to face such geared opponents. Also, they are going to be giving a set of 'free' level 50 PvP gear for you people that are incapable of doing anything for yourselves.

Takes 2-4 days to get full PvP gear at 50, too small a period to rebalance pvp around. Man up.

Newsflash, that stops to be true the second 2 or more players are targeting you.

Rakata might be superior in duels and for pure dmg/healing, if you are being focused by 2 players or more, additional mitigation>>>>additional HP.

ye because an additional 3% dmg reduction make u live 0.5 seconds longer gz so many clueless ppl here rly

A person should do better, largely b/c they're better. Stats make way too much difference IMO such that they matter much more than skill. They should augment your skill not trump it.

It's really sad on first entering the L50 bracket and having a hard time getting the 2.5k damage medal as a DPS character. I've got mostly L50 daily comms slotted orange gear at this point (it's not the best by far, but not horrendous for a new 50) and the damage dealt vs taken from geared people is depressing.

I may have misunderstood but you did it wrong, by the time you hit 50, you can get full Centurion gear. Unlike you I hit 50 on December 19th, I was 60 valor and had full battlemaster gear by late January before the lv 50 bracket.

Expertise is fine the way it is, you just need to get your centurion gear as early as possible. Working hard to get battlemaster means getting owned by if you don't any pvp gear at all.

I was walking over people with battle master gear, when I just had my centurion. I've also seen pretty even fights with peopel champ and BM gear.

I just started playing wiht my Assassin, lv 50 just 22 valor but full centurion gear, and Im still getting 1st, 2nd and 3rd places on WZ. With about 320 expertise give or take, I may not be top of the charts in DPS but Im still getting my 10, 25 kills medal, Im averaging 7 medals in WZ getting up to 10 in civil war.

This argument is so redundant, is everyone in SWTOR new to MMO's? Seriously, there are people in better gear , in every game and they got that gear doing the same thing you're doing - by PvPing, but with the advantage of them being 50 longer and having already done the gear grind. You guys just hit 50 and expect a red carpet ceremony? Toughen up, seriously.

The word 'skill' gets thrown around too much, always with the speculation that people in full battlemaster only win against new 50 because of their gear... are you *********** kidding me? If you think you're on par with someone who has played at that level longer than you... get real.

The best setup is a MIX of BM and Rakata.
But people with just full PVE gear get melted in seconds and delivering really low damage.

200 Points of your Mainstat do not make up for 12% Flat Damage increase AND Reduction.


And that's the catch, there is a difference in stats when comparing fresh lvl50 stuff and Champ / BM gear but none of these stats make it as much as unbalancing as expertise on top of that.


The damage difference from a weapon with 15 points more in your mainstat, 300 HP and 10 Weapon rating isn't game breaking. But coupled with additional 2% for additional damage and damage reduction on yourself it's a big thing.


If everyone would just have big HP pools a gang of low geared people can still pick im out. If he has 1/3 more hp and on top of that additional 12% damage reduction and Damage increase.....GG


Yes Expertise is the broken factor.

This is really a good point. As it is expertise is benefiting certain classes more than others, and it is also literally carrying people to victories they normally wouldn't have had. I noticed a huge difference between playing on my champion geared sniper and playing on my fresh 50 assassin.