Hi, I'm a sage.

Clueless terribad who doesn't understand PVP, very few high ranked warzone teams will have hybrid sorcs as dps. They are squishy, easy to shut down, don't do enough damage on the assist, and are better replaced by several other classes.

Until you realise that sorcs are actually mediocre in skilled group PVP, you'll stay terrible at the game.

Stop wasting time QQ'ing and L2P your class. All boils to that.

This is my biggest gripe too.

Why didnt bioware do anything when this class have been over the top since closed beta?

Personally i dont mind the damage and healing, but in a team oriented game this class brings too much utility while at the same time able to none stop pull hard numbers.

4k single target hit?

Thats what scoundrels and operatives hit in BM and Rakata gear WITHOUT using any adrenals or relics, but thats their once in a fight stealth opener thats supposed to hit extremly hard.
Scoundrels and operatives does break 5k in bm gear when they have expertise buff and use poweradrenals, relics and crits, they can even get up to 5.5k with some luck.
But thats it, thats once per 3 minutes.

My problem with this class is that it currently destroyes the fun in SWTOR PVP, which personally I find very nice.
Again, as an experienced pvper I have little problems with this class, and I do think its nice that new players gets to pick a class thats easy to play and easy to get into. But there should be a limit.
The problem with the sage and sorc is when experienced players picks it up. Then it becomes a powerhouse with no equal match in this game, not even remotely close.

If they did the damage they do and had the utility they do, but didnt have any bubbles or any heals, it would be balanced. But its a bloody hybrid class.

And as you said, even newly dinged sages and sorcs can pull out amazing numbers where most other classes must wait until high gear level.

And last but not least: Marauders: Play one. There are so many terrible maras and sents out there, and you KNOW its sages or sorcs that have rerolled an alt and obviuosly chosen the best melee dps class in the game, just to realize its bloody difficult to play, and as such, are getting facerolled.

Terrible players will remain terrible players.
Once Sages and Sorcs have been nerfd, which will happen, then we will see who remain true to their class.
I think we will see an overpopulation in mercs and commandos after that, as spamming tracer missiles or gravrounds is on the same level as playing a sorc or sage.
Maras will be much too difficult for 99% of the sorc population to master.

Sustained damage does not do much in pvp rather than showing big numbers on the scoreboard. Is that were you get your facts about classes?
Ranked Warzones will show, that sages/sorcs when handled properly are a small thing to worry about.

Yeah why would you want a class with...

a ranged interupt (commando/merc lacks this)

a ranged stun. Multiple sorc/sages = stunlocking from ranged (LOL at these game designers)

a CC that is instant and turns into a short stun (commando/mercs has cast time). This is VERY important because other CC's break immediately on dmg

has passive dmg, which gives you procs, which makes LOS'ing very good. Commando/merc has zero dmg when using same tactic.

can shield other people (best instant heal in the game as there is no offensive dispel

never runs out of resources to deal dmg (no downtime due to resources), and passive dmg and no spell tree lockout makes them the highest uptime as far as dps

can aoe knockback and ROOT PEOPLE THAT HAVE FULL RESOLVE, which means each additional one you add screws over any melee on the other team even more

has a no cooldown aoe spell they can spam to keep people off nodes (from range). Other classes have cooldowns on theirs, can't do it from ranged, or it cost a TON of resources

can force sprint between nodes/respawn area to prevent caps

can dispel other sorc/sages CC (because they will be stacked)

The only thing other then a heal with a cast time is channeled and AUTOKITES your target for you and can proc to channel at twice the speed

Ranged slow. VERY important. Commando/mercs/slingers/snipers (as not dot spec) lack a snare

Can pull people out of danger from a melee (including other hybrid specced sorc/sages), as well as grip ballcarriers to them

Is complete faceroll as far as skill needed to play

Yeah why would I ever bring a ton of these people on my team... Oh yeah cus I will be playing the lone sent/marauder and giving them perma predation (focus/rage spec) and steamrolling everyone until I get bored of this joke of a game, due to one stupid AC completely ruining game balance.

More tears please, my cup is almost full.

IF you are specced deep into blance tree - 28 points min (which kinda throws hybrid spec out of the window)
IF you use all boosts available
IF surge hasnt been nerfed

So yeah.

Regular crits: around 2,5k

And I think you forgot the "friendly pull" which makes us all Doug Fluties in Huttball

I'm sure plenty of teams will have these Lightning/Madness Hybrid specs in them. It's not about damage so much as it is about utility. Having another Rescue combined with the sprint > stomp combo is reason enough to take a Sorc over another dps class.

It just seems that the Lightning/Madness Hybrid spec does the most burst damage out of the other specs.

To say that Sorcs are mediocre at skilled group PVP is insanity, no other class has as many tools as the Sorc.

I know its hard to see past your tinted view of Sorcs, but coming from someone who plays a Sorc, Merc and Juggernaut. The Sorc is by far the best.

If you let sorc pull off friendly pull on any useful place you can only blame yoursef

L2P

All the tools in the world are beside a point if you are facing dirt.

Sorc doesnt do anything best, low damage, CC as many other classes, heals comparable to other healers.