Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

Yeah, it actually did cost that much. Voiceover isn't cheap.

I'm not denying the cost of the game (because I don't know one way or the other). I am, however, wondering if we aren't putting too much emphasis on the cost of voiceovers.

ME1, ME2, KOTOR, KOTOR2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Skyrim, and many more games have every bit as many (if not significantly more) voice-overs, and many of them with very famous people doing the work, from Liam Neeson to Patrick Stewart.

Yet none of those games boast a cost anywhere near that much.

So I doubt the $200 million mark, but even if it was that much, I don't see how voice-overs were what put it there.

Well I'd certainly hate to think that Bioware "hit there mark" and achieved what they wanted. I mean whatever the case may be the game does not have the feature of a game with a budget that size. Feels like I bought a a car with a Ferrari price tage but with no AC.

Engine was premade they just augmented to cut cost.

as for an earlier reply of the 8 vs 12 WZ exploit thats also a player driven problem, a) the main cause of that was apperently fixed two patches ago and if you see it your meant to screenshot it and report it, along with server and time so the powers that be can continue to rectify the issue on their end.

Actually, the larger question is why those that claim to hate the game are still here, and still playing. That's also the most puzzling.

As much fun as I find this game, Bioware arrogantly believed their own ideas, and ideals, were more important than giving gamers what they actually wanted. I told them, as did many others, the key to fighting WoW, is to offer what WoW doesn't. They think dialogue trees are enough.

As such, everything from species choice, to space combat, was done as cheaply and as easily as possible, and tons of corners were cut despite the budget and time given to them.

Problems that are a year old, from beta, still exist. Beta testers' warnings were ignored. The demands for appearance tabs refused, due to their arrogant belief that their weak mod system was good enough, and sure enough Blizzard takes advantage of Bioware's arrogance and stubbornness, and did what Bioware joyfully refused to do, and included transmog.

Tons of content was removed to be inserted into expansion and patches (armor sets, white crystals, etc.)

I've been playing the new play to 20 free thing Rift has, it's amazing just how much more flexible the UI is (being able to select from a ton of bottom and side action bars). Hell I can run the high res graphics in that game, better than I can on SWTOR. Again, because Bioware squandered money using the Hero Engine, which has never been more than a big piece of under-performing crap for lazy developers.

This game has the potential to be great, but with Bioware and EA running things, who knows.

I still find the game enjoyable, it's just that I can't believe how Bioware let their ego's override sensibilities.

well, i have a simple solution for you, PLAY ANOTHER CLASS!!! Each class has its own story and gameplay or change to darkside / lightside.

I'm not denying the cost of the game (because I don't know one way or the other). I am, however, wondering if we aren't putting too much emphasis on the cost of voiceovers.

ME1, ME2, KOTOR, KOTOR2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Skyrim, and many more games have every bit as many (if not significantly more) voice-overs, and many of them with very famous people doing the work, from Liam Neeson to Patrick Stewart.

Yet none of those games boast a cost anywhere near that much.

So I doubt the $200 million mark, but even if it was that much, I don't see how voice-overs were what put it there.

As much fun as I find this game, Bioware arrogantly believed their own ideas, and ideals, were more important than giving gamers what they actually wanted.