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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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CaliJoe
03.04.2012 , 08:54 PM | #491
Why so much hate? Not "so much hate".More like "oh boy! I get to do this mission for the 10x time! Why isn't there a 'neutral' conversation choice? Why must be a red or blue choice?"

What got me hooked was the pitch about crafting.Boy, those marketing folks SURE fooled me! Oh, and those "thousands of players at the same time" ...what planet...really..where? I can usually count w/ one hand, maybe two hands how many players are on a map. The guild that found me are like 10 people w/ 3 alts each.Artifically inflated group of 30ish.

This by no means, means I am unsubbing.I'm staying through my 6 month subscription time is up. I dropped a big chunk of change for the Collectors Edition & haven't quite had the "experience" to justify it. I don't feel satisfied so I'll speak my peace and try to be constructive about it and be patient. BW has been pretty good at the patches so far.
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Cepheid
03.04.2012 , 08:54 PM | #492
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Actually, the larger question is why those that claim to hate the game are still here, and still playing. That's also the most puzzling.
It's because you label everyone with a dissenting view as a person that outright hates the game when in fact most want it fixed. Nobody wants to loose money and time on a game they've been waiting for. What really boggles the mind is how people that are fans of the game and that want it to do well can condemn others for wanting improvements that are standard in almost every other MMO.

Also many are stuck with subscriptions for a game and a customer support staff either inaccessible or unwilling to work with it's clientele to help them get refunds for months that will never be played.

***Sometimes I just hit the forums to see if the majority of the community is still a bunch of dimwitted trolls and then leave. Costs me $15 a month to do this but it's more entertaining than the content.
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Taerkasten
03.04.2012 , 08:55 PM | #493
It's because those people don't realize that the game doesn't just end in the executable and folder. Look at me, i didn't know it. But i purchased a magnificent forum. And i just realized it when nearing the end of my 3rd month. All those 63 days of inactivity could have been used to ramble on the forums.

And i think this is the biggest problem of swtor, we don't use the forum enough. Or care about it. If i knew that this pearl of existence was just there sooner, i would have bought a second game card. This is the ultimate end game content.

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SirRobin
03.04.2012 , 09:05 PM | #494
Meh... TOR is not a "bad" game. It sure as hell shouldn't be given how much time, talent, and treasure they spent making it. However, TOR is not a "great" game either. Someone, earlier in this thread, mentioned that if I thought there were a lot of unhappy people in this forum now then I should recall what early WoW's forum was like.

Well, I do.

My counterpoint was that there are two major differences between then and now. First was that there were a lot more people playing WoW then than are playing TOR now. Second was that there were a lot more people wanting to play WoW then than want to play TOR now. WoW had lots of growing pains but the game was so "good" that millions kept wanting to play.

It seems to me that BioWare attempted to make a more "accessible" version of WoW, itself a more "accessible" version of EQ, and succeeded. Succeeded so well that a significant number of its customers are already getting, for lack of a better word, bored.

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SirRobin
03.04.2012 , 09:09 PM | #495
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Actually, the larger question is why those that claim to hate the game are still here, and still playing. That's also the most puzzling.
Actually that question has been answered before and since. Not to mention that "hate" was not involved. That is a branding of your preference, not mine. So its hardly puzzling at all.

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Ozzlik
03.04.2012 , 09:11 PM | #496
Quote: Originally Posted by Concede View Post
something that cost 200 million to 300 million should be close to perfection if not perfected

things like combat delay have no place in a project that has this kind of budget backing it up

this is how 200 million dollar look like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdWyb...eature=related
yes, well if things were easily perfected we would all be sitting on our asses doing nothing. Shut up unless you can fix it yourself.

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Daygobag
03.04.2012 , 09:15 PM | #497
Quote: Originally Posted by TheVok View Post
Game breaking? As in, you cannot play the game because of them?

List them for me please.
Well i was a this game rocks type person from the beginning.

But lately its been just getting boring. from 30-40 it becomes a grind. Quests are the same over and over so that does get boring. There was only one quest where you interact with the enviroment. They are few and far between.

LFG sucks really bad. That is the most draining boring part of the game.

Server pops are dropping. Wound the Force is my server. I was on today at 4oclock PM and there was 70-74 people in the fleet. There needs to be a LFG tool or at min a general LFG chat channel

I hear Ulum sucks because of lack of people on the republic side, plus frame rates sucks there also.

Graphics sucks also still. The texture maps suck for a 2012 game.

Travil from ship to space dock to Shuttle to planet sucks and is a freakin waist of time.


At my work there was 20 people that got this game now i am the only one left still loggin in maybe once and awhile

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Ozzlik
03.04.2012 , 09:17 PM | #498
Quote: Originally Posted by rizuhbull View Post
Uh, yes, they did. It's likely the most expensive video game ever made. So you'll have to excuse people for expecting it to play competently. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/ar...2&pagewanted=1
If it cost that much, they wouldn't have you pay only $15 to play

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Ozzlik
03.04.2012 , 09:21 PM | #499
Quote: Originally Posted by Daygobag View Post
Well i was a this game rocks type person from the beginning.

But lately its been just getting boring. from 30-40 it becomes a grind. Quests are the same over and over so that does get boring. There was only one quest where you interact with the enviroment. They are few and far between.

LFG sucks really bad. That is the most draining boring part of the game.

Server pops are dropping. Wound the Force is my server. I was on today at 4oclock PM and there was 70-74 people in the fleet. There needs to be a LFG tool or at min a general LFG chat channel

I hear Ulum sucks because of lack of people on the republic side, plus frame rates sucks there also.

Graphics sucks also still. The texture maps suck for a 2012 game.

Travil from ship to space dock to Shuttle to planet sucks and is a freakin waist of time.


At my work there was 20 people that got this game now i am the only one left still loggin in maybe once and awhile
well, i have a simple solution for you, PLAY ANOTHER CLASS!!! Each class has its own story and gameplay or change to darkside / lightside.

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Cepheid
03.04.2012 , 09:26 PM | #500
Quote: Originally Posted by Ozzlik View Post
If it cost that much, they wouldn't have you pay only $15 to play
Yeah, it actually did cost that much. Voiceover isn't cheap.
"I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould