Gs/snipers, 100% useless for competitive play

Most of what is posted regarding the defencies of gunslingers is true.

What I find unbelieveable is that on switching to dirty fighting that while the spec has a lot better mobility and aoe damage without needing to be in cover you basically have 5 clicks and then the rest of the time until you die you are spamming burst of bolts because your energy is not enough to go into cover and even fire off 1 ability.

How can you have a spec that works for 20 seconds of the warzone and then you cant use it again until you either die or spent 15 seconds recuperating?

Is there any other class which runs out of energy like this?

Totally incredible that such an untested and unusable spec could make it into the live game.

Yes, please continue to reroll while I blow everyone out of the water in damage every single warzone.

yes top dmg, while accomplishing nothing & having no benefit to the wz objective especially after next patch.

only people who thinks their sniper is good are people who having played any of the other dps class. ie operative, merc, sorc, hell even operative will out dps a sniper in any wz.
or the people the play against have absolutely no idea what they are doing.

Doing damage and getting kills is essential in every WZ except the odd case of forcing respawns on a ball carrier about to score. You will never win a WZ if you can't kill anything.

And no, mercs, sorcs, and operatives do not out damage snipers and gunslingers. Not by a long shot. And if they are, you're GS or sniper is terrible.

Do any of the other Snipers/Gunslingers that are 65+ Valor in Full BM/Rakata Gear with 1700+ Cunning also lol'ing at the kids that are telling us to L2P?

The people claiming to hit targets for 5k+ aren't trolling or lying.. [btw, ArPen is broken; its been tested]. On targets w/out Expertise [i generally use about 8-10%] i Ambush Crit for about 4-4.5k on Full BM targets.. ExplosiveProbe for around 2.5-3k [these are Crits mind you].

I Run Engineerling/Leth for the sole reason that Cull does absurd damage, and Imperial Methodology is pretty nuts as well. If also allows you to use Countermeasures to remove movement impairing effects [which lets you go back into cover if you're rooted].

Snipers/GS main issue is that they have ZERO self peels.

OP hit the nail on the head.

Our class can be replaced by ANY ranged dps class in the game ATM and do better.. while having a lower skill cap.

No one plays Snipers/GS atm.. b/c the class is aweful. I spent MILLIONS of credits and tested for days to Min/Max my Sniper.. and my damage still comes no where close to equally geared Marauders, Powertechs, or Assasins.

Sorcs aren't really an issue.

1v1 our only real issues are Geared Assassins, Merc Healers and Marauders.

We melt Sorcs, DPS Mercs, and Op Healers.. Juggs aren't an issue, and Leth/Engin wreck Marks Snipers.


But we DO have issues.


2 Fixes.. [whoever said give us 45m of range is *********** insane. that WOULD be OP].

-Give us a Vanish .

Maras have a vanish, and a cheat death that they can use anytime they want.

We're SNIPERS and we don't have a Camoflauge ability.. rediculous.

-Give us a portable piece of cover we can throw out [at a 20m range] and roll to it.

That would give as a peel that would allow use to create distance from Melee, or LoS the other Ranged DPSers..

also-- allow Leth to make their DoTs undispellable. If you have an ability [CULL] that is your MAIN SOURCE OF DAMAGE and it doesn't less damage than your other channeled ability w/out DoTS [SoS] then theres an issue here.. or give our DoTs a shorter CD...

Last Talent in Madness Roots its target for 2 sec, does a TON of damage and is a NINE SECOND Cd.

Corro Nade is a 15sec cd...

Interro Probe is a 15sec cd...


***.


btw.. we're a RANGED DPS CLASS without a slow.


really.


thats all i have to say about that.

btw. a 30% slow we have tos spec into, in our tree is USELESS.. you know.. when Sorcs have a 50% SLOW on a short CD.. and the melee dps classes have a 50% SLOW on no cd.

Useless.


Not even worth it to spec into.


ps.. if you're in a good group on a server with MOSTLY BMs.. then as a Sniper that is trying to win [since sitting around tunnelvisioning damage is easy and shows that you're bad if you're claiming that kills/damage make a player good] you're going to be behind the Maras, and Powertechs in Damage. Thats just the way it is.

But who cares.


Our root goes through Resolve.. but anything you can do as a Sniper can be done better by a Sorc.


except this..

and only this.


You have BY FAR the most burst in the game.

If i target a healer that is being guarded... i can kill them [if i can interrupt their heal, and no one else is heailng them] by popping ALL of my CDs [trinkets/adrenals] with an ExplosiveProbe [assuming you're specced into imperial Methodology] on them w/ Dart/Nade/InnteroProbe/+Cull/SoS.

Thats like.. seriously 20k+ Damage.


If you don't believe me i'll post a vid.


You're a glass cannon with no peels.





Bioware.


Fix us !


<3 Snipers/GS


Chozette [65 Valor Sniper]
Chozeqah [55 Valor Mara]
Chozenone [45 Valor Sorc]

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