Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

LOL that's because I'm not debating with you. I made that clear. I have no reason to debate with you and the other poster because I know what is reality in this case and what isn't.

You didn't even quote the rest of my reply, which leads me to believe that you didn't even read it. I'm an advocate of the absolute truth. I don't really care how strongly you feel about something or whether it's a 'practical matter of human nature'. Frankly, it's irrelevant, especially if you're opposing strong evidence. I care about the truth and only the truth of the situation, which the poster (and you) continuously deny. Again, I am not debating with you, because you CANNOT debate with an individual who refuses to see the reality of situations in the face of obvious evidence.

For certain situations and topics that don't involve facts and essential truths then what you're saying can apply. But when someone on this forum is telling me that the game is a 'huge, living breathing social world', you're going up against tons of evidence to the contrary with no evidence to support it. You can believe that if you want, I won't stop you. I also won't debate with you about it. I'll just let you know how willfully ignorant you're being about it. Call it an ad hominem, I'll call it a somewhat rude (but justified) wake-up call.

The game is fun, and the first 30 levels are a total blast with awesome quests and interesting characters.

After 30 when you finish your chapter 1 story, and begin chapter 2, it's boring. The quests just get worse and worse (and you could argue this boring repeat quests begin before 30 even) and are the same thing just with a long dialog preventing you from doing it and the story involved is never that interesting any more.

Then there's endgame, a mess of bugs and BW decided to do a lot of bad game play decisions on various things.

People are complaining for a lot of very valid reasons, but I think the most obvious one (behind the bugs) is just how everything drops off a cliff after 30. So the first 20-25 levels and the quests involved are really polished and really get you into the game, then you find yourself begrudgingly doing the cut scenes with bland characters only to hope that THIS is the cut scene and quest they spent time on to have a few seconds of awesomeness only to be drowned out by hours of more repeated boring quests.

And this isn't even talking about the people who leveled another alt to higher levels where they repeat the same quests again and again. I'm only 31 on my Gun Slinger alt and I'm already finding myself spacebarring every conversation just to level faster so I can see the new story quests for my class which is all I really want to see by then, because it's the only new stuff I haven't seen again and again and again.

You noticed that too? Yeah, Chapter 2 seems rather lame compared to Chapter 1 for the classes I've played.

You are easily mislead then, by yourself....which by the way is incongruent with:

Just because I search for absolute truth doesn't mean I don't have beliefs that have some evidence congruent with the truth. They are beliefs that are the most favourable given the situation. You only quoted the FIRST sentence of my reply, and only bothered to hark on that point. Unless you make it clear (which you haven't) that you've actually read and replied to what I was saying, then I don't know what you're expecting.

Also, ad hominem! yay!

This game, is unique, it's a diamond in the rough, and a gem of cinema and storytelling in a sea of 'raid lotz gets purplz, raid more' style MMO grind fests.For once the story of the game is front and center stage.

For once in a long time I really care about my character, I care about the choices he makes, and I ponder over how his actions will affect those around him. I'm actually involved in what my character does.

It's a great feeling, and one I haven't had in a MMO, for a long time.

This game is new, it's in a baby stage with plenty of time to grow, and improve.

However...

I'd like to see that improvement stay the course of putting the story first, of putting the player immersive experience first, and making this game an interactive cinematic master piece. it dose not need all the same element, or make any of the same mistakes, that MMOs have done for years.

We live in an age where MMOs are all around us, and they all cater to different kinds of players. For every 'old guard' hardcore that losses interest, new players will emerge who love Star Wars, and love how Bioware weaves it's storytelling into every aspect of this game.

Not all MMOs are for all folks, and they don't have to be, this game is fun as it is. ^_^

From a guy with no MMORPG experience coming new into this one I would have to say its bad. 2 months of subscription and I've already cleared all the hard contents(Nightmare operations and all hard modes) reached battlemaster rank and hell even before BM I was taking down fully geared battlemasters with my level 49 pve weapon. Game is a total joke when you hit end game. Its just grind grind grind all day. Ilum was fun when it wasn't a total one sided zerg and wz's were fun until you realize that you've been in each wz over 100 times.

Really happy you like to romanticize the ins and outs of marketing and business but that's not really how it works. Hardcore gamers keep up the sites that generate interest and bring more people to the game. Enjoy your SPRPG.

I play this over WoW because I can enjoy it when I feel like it. However, that feeling only applies to alts as I have quit my level 50 due to the boring gameplay at 50.

SWTOR isn't bad but you're kidding yourself if you can't understand how mediocre SWTOR is.

On top of this, how some bugs/ broken features even made it to launch is the worse. Like how this game is supposed to have mirror classes ,yet somehow Empire ended up with tons of skills that were/are stronger than Republic. Or Kira not working for three builds in beta and at launch. Or there still being ability delay in the game though it was "fixed"...

Personally, I think this game was made by an egotistical team that did their job, but they didn't like their job.

And like most people who work at jobs or on projects they hate, they took short-cuts and did as little as possible just to get it over with.

That's how I feel at least.

I'm willing to bet that most people that think this game is the "best" MMO ever...have played very few MMOs, have played no other MMO and/or are barely active on this game.

Anyhow, I'm just ridin' the train; waitin' for my stop.

Why change a game from a rich storytelling experience, into a soulless gear grind for 'top dog' guilds.

I'd hate to see this game turn into another outlet for Alpha Male Posturing.

I've been playing MMOs for a really long time. Longer than I want to admit to....

...and I freaking love this game. I love it for what it is, and especially, for what it isn't.