Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

You would first have to define his "assumption" as I see no assumption made. You would then have to disprove his assumption beyond the use of fallacy.

As I stated, the question was asked. The poster demonstrated a viable answer based on factual data. Those awards were, in fact, given. Assuming that, regardless of those awards, the game will fail is an incorrect assumption based upon logical fallacy. To qualify such as proof based on a single game that held some awards is equally faulty logic as I losely demonstrated.

Your opinon of the poster, your opinion of his posting methods are largely irrelevant to the subject matter, no more or less then mine of you, be it positive or negative.

You think that in 5 years all the static, lifeless and flat environments found in SWTOR are going to suddenly become a big expansive world you can explore? No. This is how the game is. Cramped, closed planets that are heavily sharded with very little social interaction. That is NOT a living, breathing MMORPG world, no matter which way you spin it. It's not an opinion and frankly, it's not up for debate. The fact that you continuously try to pass off this game as a 'living breathing world that will evolve' is laughable. There is no MMO out there (save for Rift) that is as static and dead as this game is. It's worse than the original Guild Wars (again, didn't have to pay a monthly fee).

I also never said this game was a failure. Your emotional attachment to this game is clearly clouding your judgement, and it's a sign of weakness. I know you know that what I'm saying is true, you just refuse to accept it.

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This game is bad ... but it is SW so we keep playing.

Ah the power of a trend mark.

No its not. I can say that with absolute confidence. If you have never played the other MMO's then it will feel like it is. For a few months, then it will sink in. Because it is something new to experience depending on the MMO it may be even shorter than a few months. But it is not Greener. At its core. All the top MMO's today are the same. People are asking for features that are being developed as we speak. Its a brand new game. I'm glad they released it even without those features yet so we can at least play the game. Remember when everyone was like "i don't care about that stuff, i just want to play the game!" Now you can play the game, but they shouldn't cry, "hey wheres my guild bank!" etc. As i've said. Its leaps and bounds better than any other MMO to date. I don't feel the grind. I don't experience the frustrations I used to from say WoW for example. This game has removed all those pet peeves I had playing those other MMO's. Do I have other ones playing this one? Sure, but they are not game braking.

I'm still surprised that a bigger stink hasn't been created by the whole "almost two hundred million" bit. That's a hell of a lot of money and not a whole hell of a lot of game. EA gave Mythic almost a year before heads started rolling and WAR cost a hell of a lot less to make than TOR. So I'm quite curious about who the first victims will be. Can't be Gordon since he may have seen the "writing on the wall" and bailed before launch.

That leaves Hickman and Vogel. I would suspect Hickman but since he weathered Mythic's purge and Vogel has some SWG on him. That might make it easier to paint a target on Rich. Don't think it will be one of the Doctors because BioWare does have other lucrative lines. Jacob was almost a given because Mythic didn't have anything else to fall back on. BioWare has Mass Effect, Dragon Age, etc...

Of course once the first head is chopped it won't be long before the real house cleaning begins. As the others in the fancy chairs have had it made clear what any sort of disagreement will do to how much time they'll have left in those fancy chairs.

it's actually a very small percentage of the overall pop. the qq at the start was mainly from people who thought swtor was going to be something else (what I can't say), but the ones left are more likely the kind of people who simply enjoy trolling or have something to gain. swtor isn't perfect (no game is), but if you don't like it tell BW why when you /cancel and move on. i imagine there's a PR firm or firms out there for some other developers that's making a decent amount of coin from the negative noise.

Define what you mean by this. It is a huge generalization that is both vague and overly broad. I can't answer if I have no idea what you are talking about. By this argument, every MMORPG is a failure based on its environmental featuers.

What I can argue, based not on my opinion, but past MMORPGs is that the game, in five years, will be greatly advanced, and totally different then it was at release. I would contend that we have only visited a minute area of each planet as an aspect of leveling, and that additional areas will open as new expansions are released.

You have still not supported your argument beyond conjecture. My counter contention is also speculation, but based on the natural progression of virtually every MMORPG. An example of this would be Wow, in which vast expansions of area, clases, content took place with each expansion released.

Beyond that argument, once again, tihs is your opinion and has not, in any way, demonstrated that the game is a failure, just that you do not like it based on a number of aspects that you believe will make it better.

That is fine. We are all entitled to our own opinion. However, when one attempts to pass opinion off as fact, then use that extrapolation as a means of promulgating their opinion into law, one should expect to have to demonstrate their point with some modicum of proof beyond what has been argued.

Logical fallacy, Ad homiem. Never a good idea. ;p

Yes, and when i say "match the content" i mean exactly that.

Endgame, theres nothing here that seperates from it WoW, and from what i am seeing, nothing in the future

Ilum, Outlaws Den, Space Content, all chances to seperate yourself... All really sad attempts

Naw, lets go with rated BGs... err Warzones.

Nice try, would you prefer implication instead? lol

The question is asked, "Why are so many people saying this game is bad?" One poster replies to a question with a question and links to a page showing awards given by... people. So, how many people? Yet when you actually read the original poster's post its stated, "in this forum."

Well how many of the people giving those rewards are in this forum? Well they have not all stepped forward, nor are they all tracked that I am aware of. So, out of context with the original post, another poster posts a question referencing claims made outside this forum.

When looking at such rewards it is hardly unimaginable to ponder what rewards other products might have been given. Warhammer Online and Rift appear to have also been given a variety of rewards. Supposedly implying the product was "good." Well, at least worth the award.

Considering the current state of those product's in the mumorpuger market, it would also be hardly unimaginable to ponder why they would have called it "good" in the first place if they have obviously not remained very popular compared to the leading product in their field.

Therefore, replying to a question replying to a question with a question is hardly a flaw in reasoning nor an attempt to fool some of the people some of the time. Especially when the second question does not pay attention to the context of the first question.