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Sith chain of loyalty?


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Darth_Solrac
03.03.2012 , 08:17 PM | #1
I heard the Jedi's is:

1. The Force.
2. The Jedi Order.
3. The Republic.

The Sith's:

1. Themselves.
2. The Sith Order.
3. The Empire.

Right? Switch some around? Or is it just, ultimately themselves, themselves, & themselves.
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Tekkoclarky
03.03.2012 , 08:23 PM | #2
Pretty much why they always lose.

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Darth_Solrac
03.03.2012 , 08:27 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Tekkoclarky View Post
Pretty much why they always lose.
Pump your brakes on 'always' there, just not true.
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Zalocx
03.03.2012 , 09:25 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Solrac View Post
Pump your brakes on 'always' there, just not true.
When have the Sith had a LASTING victory over the Jedi in all of Galactic History? A few years between The Jedi Civil War and the Triumvirate's Interregnum, a few years where they had the upper hand between the Great Galactic War and the breaking of the Treaty of Corrosant (we all know the Republic wins in the end of this little war we play out in TOR), two or so decades during the Dark Times, and a few years during One Sith Empire. The rest of the time they are either actively fighting the Jedi, licking their wounds after loosing to the Jedi, or "planning" for their next fight with the Jedi.

Jedi on the other hand go entire generations between serious Sith threats in a good run.

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Darth_Solrac
03.04.2012 , 01:05 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Zalocx View Post
When have the Sith had a LASTING victory over the Jedi in all of Galactic History? A few years between The Jedi Civil War and the Triumvirate's Interregnum, a few years where they had the upper hand between the Great Galactic War and the breaking of the Treaty of Corrosant (we all know the Republic wins in the end of this little war we play out in TOR), two or so decades during the Dark Times, and a few years during One Sith Empire. The rest of the time they are either actively fighting the Jedi, licking their wounds after loosing to the Jedi, or "planning" for their next fight with the Jedi.

Jedi on the other hand go entire generations between serious Sith threats in a good run.
That, my friend, is SIMPLY because Lucas, & the creators of those games ultimately kowtowed to the conventional wisdom/societal pressure that 'good' has to win out. BS.

If SW were reality, a militarist, strongest survive mentality run society & nation like the Sith Empire would likely, ultimately, eat the Republic for lunch.
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BrandonSM
03.04.2012 , 01:25 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Zalocx View Post
When have the Sith had a LASTING victory over the Jedi in all of Galactic History? A few years between The Jedi Civil War and the Triumvirate's Interregnum, a few years where they had the upper hand between the Great Galactic War and the breaking of the Treaty of Corrosant (we all know the Republic wins in the end of this little war we play out in TOR), two or so decades during the Dark Times, and a few years during One Sith Empire. The rest of the time they are either actively fighting the Jedi, licking their wounds after loosing to the Jedi, or "planning" for their next fight with the Jedi.

Jedi on the other hand go entire generations between serious Sith threats in a good run.
When have the Jedi/Republic have had a Lasting Victory?

The RO2 doesn't count, they purposely hid.

And after the Emperor was destroyed, much of the GE was still there but no leader. Until Thrawn Came Along.


And the GE is arguably the 2nd most succesful Empire ever. They destoryed the Republic which has never been done before and destroyed ALL of the JEDI. Who cares how long it lasted, they achieved the almighty goal.
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Spartanik
03.04.2012 , 02:17 AM | #7
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And the GE is arguably the 2nd most succesful Empire ever. They destoryed the Republic which has never been done before and destroyed ALL of the JEDI. Who cares how long it lasted, they achieved the almighty goal.
And the Jedi dont? in folowing your reason even the jedi were more sucessfull. In destroying the sith empire.... uh how manny time sexactly 2 or 3 or more i just lost count.

My take on this issue is light and dark will always be there as well the fight against the darkside. always.
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AngelousWang
03.04.2012 , 08:09 AM | #8
Sith always follow there own interests.

They only serve the Sith Order and Sith Empire in their own interests, mostly this is their interest to stay alive, as disobeying stronger Sith will get them killed.

But if any Sith got enough power to overthrow the Empire and create his own he would do it in a second.
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XjediXrf
03.04.2012 , 08:23 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by BrandonSM View Post
When have the Jedi/Republic have had a Lasting Victory?

The RO2 doesn't count, they purposely hid.

And after the Emperor was destroyed, much of the GE was still there but no leader. Until Thrawn Came Along.


And the GE is arguably the 2nd most succesful Empire ever. They destoryed the Republic which has never been done before and destroyed ALL of the JEDI. Who cares how long it lasted, they achieved the almighty goal.
I wouldn`t say `all`.
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BrandonSM
03.04.2012 , 08:35 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by XjediXrf View Post
I wouldn`t say `all`.
Well most of them exiled themselves making themself no longer Jedi at all. There was a little that remained Jedi but they were all killed overtime...
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."