As long as ranged is blatantly favored, PVP in this game will never be balanced.

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As long as ranged is blatantly favored, PVP in this game will never be balanced.

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Redmarx

03.03.2012 , 07:31 PM \| #51	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesmcalli Fixed it for ya. No. In baby PVP with terribad zero-skill clueless puggers, ranged seem better. In real PVP with skilled players on both sides: Melee > ranged. By far.
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Jesmcalli

03.03.2012 , 07:43 PM \| #52	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx No. In baby PVP with terribad zero-skill clueless puggers, ranged seem better. In real PVP with skilled players on both sides: Melee > ranged. By far. Ah, so in a tiny fraction of "pro" PVPers, melee could be OP, so balance around that. Don't balance around the PVP that the vast majority of people will be playing. Makes total sense.

HellFlame

03.03.2012 , 07:49 PM \| #53	Quote
marauder / sentinel dps is just insane and you cant even evade (except stealthers) if your low hp... they gonna charge after you and get even more resources to burn you down.
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Noctournys

03.03.2012 , 08:07 PM \| #54	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesmcalli Ah, so in a tiny fraction of "pro" PVPers, melee could be OP, so balance around that. Don't balance around the PVP that the vast majority of people will be playing. Makes total sense. so you're suggesting that balance be based around the fact that people are god-awful?
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it: http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

Derian

03.03.2012 , 08:13 PM \| #55	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Lhaim Rated warzones will be dominated by heal/melee-zerg stacked teams. /thread QFT. There won't be any TM spammers that's for sure. Too easy to destroy them.
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kweassa

03.03.2012 , 08:14 PM \| #56	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesmcalli You can't make a tank guard you, or a healer heal you, as much as you'd like it. Being an elitist clown doesn't further your point. Then you are playing with a bad healer and a bad tank. It's a team tactic issue, and nothing to do with range vs melee. Stop trolling the complaint on something that's fine, and complain to your teammates.
"To everything, there is a first step. The first steps in becoming better at PvP, is to acknowledge the fact that you totally suck. There's no shame in this -- even the greatest of players have been there, done that. Stop complaining. Ask more questions. People are happy to help."

Derian

03.03.2012 , 08:15 PM \| #57	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo Oh look, bad melee classes that don't know how to team play complaining. Try remembering this is a team game- get a tank to guard you, a healer to heal you- BAM, marauders are most OP class in the game by a long shot. It's not BW's fault you don't play to your class's strengths, and no, the game should never be balanced around bads, that just makes the game terrible. Good players already are all rerolling marauders because of how OP there are. Bah they aren't OP. There was just a group of Sents/Marauders who have played the class since day one and in beta who knew it was a good class, and educated these so called "Good" players. They mostly make crappy marauders though.
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Seriasx

03.03.2012 , 08:16 PM \| #58	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctournys so you're suggesting that balance be based around the fact that people are god-awful? I think that is exactly what he wants. Games should always be balanced from the top all the way down so you can accurately gauge every classes potential. Also for those who are new to mmo pvp the game is not balanced around 1v1 combat or else we would all be playing the same classes.

Derian

03.03.2012 , 08:17 PM \| #59	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by khealthar melee is not hard to play. You're not talking to a "dev" when you submit a ticket, you're talking to a customer rep that is most likely outsourced and has no idea how to play the game. Casters are difficult to play because you have to worry about your positioning so you don't get destroyed by every melee in the warzone, getting interrupted etc melee is extremely easy to play, i've always played melee classes. You don't need the best computer/internet connection in the world to play melee. gw2 will not save you guys, go check out mesmer/elementalist videos. h3h3 cy@ lol qft!!!
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Derian

03.03.2012 , 08:20 PM \| #60	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesmcalli Fixed it for ya. Oh boy, bad players complaining about melee needing a guard and heals again. This is only as new as last August.
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