Star wars Naga Mouse.

That would be automation of the game by the current way its designed, so yes, that would be breaking the ToS. Having something else then the player play the game, or do a function in the game, is breaking the ToS.


Edit: Before anyone gets on my case, I"m referencing something a program doing it for him automatically, not binding things to a mouse button.

There is a thread on the Costumer Service part of the forum about this very thing....


http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...=316728&page=5

"This" was the reply we got on there :

yeah again I think it's something they want to be careful about what they say, especially promoting such products and talking about potential macro systems in the future. I put in a ticket once about my G13 macros (heck go over to the PVP forum and people will openly tell you they use auto-it as well) and was told it was fine. Someone else was told it wasn't, meh. Here was the description of what I have going:


"For example my most used one is a Backstab-Shiv key on my G13. It presses Backstab and then Shiv immeditely after, if I'm not behind the target then Shiv fires off, since the GCD does not trigger if you don't meet ability criteria. Also one for overload shot/rifle shot. If I'm not within the 10M range when i press overload shot it presses rifle shot at the same time so that it fires. Also one that uses my relic and then adrenal right after after the gcd."


And I was told I was good to go.

That being said there are a lot more abusive ways to use macros that no one really wants described, which should certainly be red flagged.

Good point.

I know I will be getting the RAT MMO7 instead of anything made by razer as everything I have had from them has lasted a year or less.

I can recommend the RAT 7 (or 9 if you want cordless I guess).

I do find it weird that they're so finicky about macros yet promote very expensive macro mouse and keyboards.

I'd also like to know how they plan on knowing the difference between the different macros people are using ?

On my RAT I can trigger with 1 click a reusable stim, first available relic, any other additional buff that's not on the global cooldown and an attack right off the bat... and that's the simpliest macro...
From there, just holding a mouse button that cycles through all possible available attacks executing whichever one is ready is very easy to set up.

Same with healing and defensive combos executed in a desired order that then keep cycling triggering whichever one is available again first.

How would they know who's pressing a button over and over executing a cycle, or just holding a button to do the same ? ...or am I missunderstanding their explanation of illegal macros ?

You just can't automate processes like botting. The mouse is pretty awesome. I love it however Synapse 2.0 is buggy as hell and makes the mouse work it's best in wired mode to keep the settings. If you go wireless Synapse 2.0 tends to not recognize the mouse is even connected though the mouse works but uses default settings.

Ahh I see, thanks, nothing that I could walk away from while it works for me. Makes sense.

So I'm not the only one who bought an expensive razer mouse only to have to chunk it for a microsoft mini that i've had for 4 years?!

The RAT just looks a bit unruly. What do you like about it?

A friend of mine bought the RAT, but he had issues with it wanting to track, even on their special mouse bad. The particular laser they use doesn't seem to be of the greatest quality and loves to just stop tracking. He ended up having to replace it because it was just overly frustrating to have it come up multiple times mid game. He said if that wasn't an issue he would have kept it as it would have been the perfect mouse. Looking online brought up tons of people complaining about the same thing, so it seemed to be fairly common.

I myself just switched from a Logitech G500 to a Razer Naga, I ran out of buttons on the Logi. I am comfortable with the build quality and performance so far, hopefully it lasts more than a year. Though I won't lie, if it failed after a year I would buy another.

The problem with that response from Customer Service is that it is rather convoluted. While at first it seems pretty straight forward, it really isn't, and in it's wording says you can't use the product they are pushing. Here is a breakdown....

"No automation" - Define automation, technically sending a companion off to craft or on a mission is automated. As I don't have to actually do anything to reach the outcome of the situation. Auto run is a form of automation in this game as well, one button press performs an action automatically. So technically there is already automation in the game.

"No delays or looped commands in macros" - Since skills can not be used/cast at the same time there has to be a delay between them, a delay that is in place by the game. If I have a button that uses Acid Blade followed by Hidden Strike, there is a delay between them. This delay is inherent and forced during the application of Acid Blade.

"It is okay to bind a macro that performs abilities after each other as long as it still requires the user to press the button on the physical keyboard each time a new action is performed" - This is the one I have the biggest issue with, especially the part that says "requires the user to press the button on the PHYSICAL keyboard each time". Really? We can use our macro buttons so long as we still press the ones on the keyboard? Then what is the point of the macro buttons on our Naga? More specifically, if this is the governing policy on the issue why are you jointly, with Razer, pushing the SWTOR mouse with these lines? From the advertisement we have.......

"17 MMO-optimized buttons
Reign supreme in the far reaches of the galaxy with the Star Wars: The Old Republic Gaming Mouse by Razer featuring 17 buttons for effortless destruction and more skills at your disposal. The Razer driver software allows easy organization and absolute freedom to remap key binds, character abilities, and macros to all the buttons to keep you on top of your game"

or, how about this one?

"Razer Synapse 2.0 Enabled
Add and manage multiple devices with Razer Synapse 2.0. Instantly store and access your macros, key bindings, configurations and more from the cloud. CLICK HERE to learn more about Razer Synapse 2.0."

So which is it? I can use the 17 buttons on the mouse you are telling me can keep me on my game, or I have to still use the physical buttons on my keyboard?

http://store.razerzone.com/store/raz...oryId.56404900
No! None of what was said clears anything up! Here you are pushing an extremely expensive mouse, and touting its many features, abilities, and benefits. Then on the side saying if I use what I was sold you are going to ban me. If this ever were to happen I would simply demand full refund of the purchase price of the mouse, game, and any paid subscription. If they didn't comply with that it would just go to Small Claims, and being civil burden of proof is very relaxed. It wouldn't take a whole lot of work to convince the judge or mediator that I was sold something then banned, thus losing my investment, for using what I was sold by the very company who sold it.

I got the tron mouse for $25 from WOOT last month. LOL @ that price.