Gs/snipers, 100% useless for competitive play

We already went over that, people who cant identify whats happening around them, have no clue about anything other then what 1-5 does on their hotbar will generally be fodder for a sniper, but people who do crazy things like know what their abilities do, have a vague understanding of what yours is capable of and can also identify whats happening around them on a battlefield will LoS a sniper all day long while still pvping other opponents at the same time.

If class balance is meant to account for everyone being completely stupid and unable to grasp a basic understanding of this game then yeah everything is fine, but if its not then snipers could really use some help against people who can grasp basic pvp strategy.

Against sorcs/sages without a sheild up? Yeah, sure.

Against everyone else? No we are not even close to having the highest spike dmg unless everyone else is hitting heavy armor players for 1/4th their actual dmg without the opponent having to pop a defensive temp.

Sorc/sages might make up 50% of the WZ population, but that doesnt mean snipers are ok.

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I read most of that. I disagree with your assessment of cover. At least against me (Parakeet PT) it's pretty great. I can't pull or charge you while you're in cover, and cover absorbs my bread and butter dps move (Rail shot).

I'll admit I have a unique point of view, but to me snipers are easily the class I'm most afraid of right now in pvp. Maybe good assassins, but those are so few and far between it's really a nonfactor. Even bad snipers can drop me pretty fast though if it's a 1v1.

MM = PVE SPECC STOP SA THAT YOUR DMG GETS MITIGATED .MM SPEC IS NOT FOR PVP STOP EVEN SPEAKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES OT PVP ITS A DAMN PURE PVE SPECC.pvp specc are full letha or leth/engi.And yes snipers is by far the worst class in the game at mand who ever says the oposite he just palying another game .Plain and simple.Oh btw snipers are the worst in both 1v1 and grp situations than every other class.Thanks.

Fellow Sniper when the times comes and we notice it only the few that left behind and didnht rerroled will deserve it the most enough said .

lol what?

Gunslinger/Sniper = worst class mechanics in game. Needs much more love.

for rated WZ which will be lvl 50 and they only have 7k hp they are half naked even a poorly geared lvl 50 sage will have at least 10k hp avg for rateds will be 15k for sages and everyone else 16k-17k +

100% dead when rated war zones comes out? Hmm I still plan on playing my Sniper as it's my main. So you're 100% incorrect.

That's a very cute way of ignoring the issues Snipers have.

@ the OP

To say snipers are 100% useless for competitive play is, well, wrong. I've been devoutly playing a sniper in PvP since release, and am currently valued in my PvP guild, mostly because I can put out fairly high numbers on enemy targets. Despite what a large portion of the sniper community says, we can put out quite a bit of DPS, even solo queuing against a premade. Being able to focus and takes down targets quickly, either eliminating significant targets or peeling them off from the objective and forcing them to pay attention to you is valued and something not many other classes can do to the same effect.

Now, that's not to say I'm blind to the issues that do plague Snipers, and there are plenty of people who are. Not being able to enter cover on ramps/ledges, not being able to enter cover while rooted, Entrench and/or Cover Pulse not working 100% of the time, et cetera. Some of these are overcome-able, but the fact of the matter is they do severely raise the skill curb needed to play a Sniper effectively.

Beyond that, certain individual trees do need some work, namely Lethality. Quite honestly, the only viable builds for a good sniper to use in a competitive PvP environment are Engineering, MM, or an Eng/MM Hybrid. Lethality could work in competitive PvP, if there wasn't an instant cast a few classes had access to which effectively make Lethality completely useless. As a tree, they are in desperate need of some sort of Dispell protection, because I can promise you when rated WZs come out, the few snipers aren't going to be using an obsolete spec.

While I disagree with the OP on some points, this is a discussion that needs to be made apparent to Bioware. It's clear even from Sniper sub-forums that there is a significant portion of the Sniper community that is finding the class extremely difficult, and virtually non of the issues presented have been given lip service from Bioware.