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Disagreement on the removal of alignment restrictions on color crystals

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Disagreement on the removal of alignment restrictions on color crystals

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Sylriana
03.02.2012 , 01:32 PM | #11
color restrictions always seemed silly and backwards to me. It doesn't fit with the lore and it restricts customization while providing no actual benefit. Other than making red/blue marauder/sentinel/gunslinger/mercenaries special snowflakes.

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Icebergy
03.02.2012 , 01:32 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Eroex View Post
The empire uses green lasers on their ships.

The republic/rebles use red lasers on their ships.


Does that mean the entire imperial navy is lightside?

Does that mean the entire republic navy is darkside?
Ship lasers have a lot to do with lightsabers.
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ErikModi
03.02.2012 , 01:34 PM | #13
Copy-pasted from a General thread on the same topic. . . the last line is aimed at THAT OP, who had a complaint something like "this ruins the Star Wars look for me!"

If the crystals were only for lightsaber color, then there might be a point to restricting them.

However, color crystals are also used in blasters. In the entire OT, we never see a blaster fire anything but a red bolt (except for the laser canons and turbolasers on Imperial ships.)

Similarly, lightsaber color was never restricted by alignment. Vader activated Luke's green lightsaber with no problem. General Greivous used green and blue lightsabers with no problem. Darth Vader used his blue lightsaber with no problem (and even at one point during his duel with Obi-Wan, they wound up switching sabers briefly. It was largely cut from the final film, but if you look closely, when Anakin is lying on the table, you can see Obi-Wan holding Anakin's lightsaber and Anakin holding Obi-Wan's.)

And that's just for lightsabers. Let's not forget all the thousands of light-side characters who use red blasters, and the millions of clone troopers who still fired blue bolts from their DC-15s.

The only restriction that would make sense would be to limit it by faction, not Light/Dark alignment. But even that doesn't really make sense.

And to finally torpedo the OPs argument, if you came to play a Star Wars game, and the color crystal alignment "breaks your immersion". . . what about all the Sith Lords carrying green lightsabers, because the nonsensical alignment restrictions leave them no choice?
Jedi vs. Sith, Page 97, column 2, paragraph 4, line 1:

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, the Jedi used crystals from many different sources, and ignited lightsabers in every known hue, including purple, orange, and gold.

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Eroex
03.02.2012 , 01:39 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
Ship lasers have a lot to do with lightsabers.
Oh so this is all about the sith/Jedi? What about troopers, bounty hunters, agents, and smugglers?

I cant stand the arrogance of force users. Every thing has to be about them all the time....

Disclosure: I already knew some one would post that nonsense.

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G_Vega
03.02.2012 , 01:41 PM | #15
I disagree with the OP's disagreement. I currently have a "light" Sith using a green crystal. He is one evil SoB, never missing an opportunity to kill someone, but since he has diplomacy, he can get light points easily. I have a similar Jedi who uses a red crystal, but is a total carebear.

Personally, I wish they would take it further and remove the faction restrictions on clothing (Armor) as well.

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Wang
03.02.2012 , 01:44 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Eroex View Post
The empire uses green lasers on their ships.

The republic/rebles use red lasers on their ships.


Does that mean the entire imperial navy is lightside?

Does that mean the entire republic navy is darkside?
I think the laser color is more akin to tracers used in modern munitions.
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darthldub
03.02.2012 , 01:49 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by G_Vega View Post

Personally, I wish they would take it further and remove the faction restrictions on clothing (Armor) as well.
Or at least give the jedi some sort of dark side armor and the sith some sort of light side armor

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GreyGloryborne
03.02.2012 , 02:20 PM | #18
I'm against the alignment restrictions to lightsaber crystals personally. While yes, it is easier to see your opponent (or possible teammate)'s alignment easier, it makes little sense why you must have such an alignment to slot a crystal into a saber. KoToR lacked that restriction and I found it made the game more interesting.

Roleplaying as a Jedi Sentinel that has felt both sides of the force and chosen to play a role of neutrality, I vote against it on the grounds that in order to wield both a blue and red lightsaber, I have to do "dumb evil" things for no reason other than making sure I can keep using my red crystal.

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Brool
03.02.2012 , 02:28 PM | #19
glad they are removing the restrictions again, was not happy about it when they placed them in the game in the first place during beta.
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ChaosKirin
03.02.2012 , 02:35 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by AlriDSG View Post
I know a lot of people probably disagree with me but I liked the fact that many color crystals had light or dark side requirements.

The reasons for this are that it somewhat puts SWTOR in a position where like traditional Star Wars lore,
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why do people think this. :|