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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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iceperson
03.02.2012 , 08:43 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
miss the point much?

There are ways to build story and discovery in to the RPG element that makes it grow and progress... not the total disconnect there is now.

End game has absolutely nothing to do with the story element for any individual character. Think about that. That was BW's claim to fame for this MMO. And yet... end game? Um... yeah...
i never once thought my individual story arc would be infinite. that you did isn't BWs fault. 90% of the things I did while leveling didn't have anything to do with my individual story either...

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Gohlar
03.02.2012 , 08:45 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadit View Post
I'm not bashing on anyone but since i haven't played WoW yet could you be more specific please? What are these extreme differences that made you post in such a callous manner.
Clearing MC and BWL in 1 night were common: Maybe one you had both on farm....no way in hell that was happening early on. MC wasn't even getting cleared for over a year by the vast majority. BWL was really hard when it was new. The OP has never set foot in BWL I bet.

No hard content in Wrath/Cata: Wrath and Cata had some of the most difficult content ever in the game. Noobs got their 1st set of epics and pretended they were done.

This game isn't easier than WoW: There is really nothing I need to say here other than this is completely false. Not even comparable. Even saying it is ridiculous.

I could go on and on, but to even compare this game's endgame to WoW's it just hilarious in general.

The entire post is uninformed to the point where I have to wonder if he's just trolling. WoW's end game has always been deep and challenging if you wanted to clear everything. Here people can clear everything in 1 night without even knowing the fights.

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Meldwyn
03.02.2012 , 08:45 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
Just keep in mind that you will reach the end of that as well.

The bad thing about MMOs is it takes time to create new content.
I have suggested some things in the past to help alleviate this a bit. Things like...

Companion quests that you stumble upon on various planets, have to have that particular companion active at the time. (hints could be given in dialogue)
Discover more of your character's past. (now that we have gone forward, let's go back a bit)
Hints at what the new coming threat might be and your role in it, how do you prepare for it?
More about the relationships you now have (married to Kira... but she acts no different, or you hate one companion, how does that go now?)
Give me reasons for my character to want to run Ops, or get geared more... etc... Purpose is very important in a story.

The key would be rarity. Things that aren't just handed to you. You have to discover them, research, grind a bit, whatever... but tie the two together.

Those are just a few, more creative people than me could come up with dozens of things...
My epiphany about End Game in SWTOR!

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Azzras
03.02.2012 , 08:50 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
I have suggested some things in the past to help alleviate this a bit. Things like...

Companion quests that you stumble upon on various planets, have to have that particular companion active at the time. (hints could be given in dialogue)
Discover more of your character's past. (now that we have gone forward, let's go back a bit)
Hints at what the new coming threat might be and your role in it, how do you prepare for it?
More about the relationships you now have (married to Kira... but she acts no different, or you hate one companion, how does that go now?)
Give me reasons for my character to want to run Ops, or get geared more... etc... Purpose is very important in a story.

The key would be rarity. Things that aren't just handed to you. You have to discover them, research, grind a bit, whatever... but tie the two together.

Those are just a few, more creative people than me could come up with dozens of things...
Couldn't agree more.

Hopefully BW also agrees.

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Meldwyn
03.02.2012 , 08:50 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
i never once thought my individual story arc would be infinite. that you did isn't BWs fault. 90% of the things I did while leveling didn't have anything to do with my individual story either...
I never once thought my individual story arc would be infinite either, but I expected a little more thought put in to end game than was clearly put in that area. BW has a ton of creative types that could have done soooo much better at giving end game a purpose and tying it to the leveling process.

That's all I am saying.

They wanted to innovate with Story, no one said they had to do that... But they chose that path, only to abandon it for end game.
My epiphany about End Game in SWTOR!

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iceperson
03.02.2012 , 08:50 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
Clearing MC and BWL in 1 night were common: Maybe one you had both on farm....no way in hell that was happening early on. MC wasn't even getting cleared for over a year by the vast majority. BWL was really hard when it was new. The OP has never set foot in BWL I bet.

No hard content in Wrath/Cata: Wrath and Cata had some of the most difficult content ever in the game. Noobs got their 1st set of epics and pretended they were done.

I could go on and on, but to even compare this game's endgame to WoW's it just hilarious in general.

The entire post is uninformed to the point where I have to wonder if he's just trolling.
well, BWL wasn't in wow at release. The first tier of raid content for every wow expansion has been just as easy as the first tier in swtor though.

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Gohlar
03.02.2012 , 08:51 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
well, BWL was in wow at release. The first tier of raid content for every wow expansion has been just as easy as the first tier in swtor though.
No, it wasn't.

MC was tier 1, BWL released over a year later and was T2.

Maybe people just have no idea what they're talking about? MC was harder than anything in SWTOR btw.

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iceperson
03.02.2012 , 08:54 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
No, it wasn't.

MC was tier 1, BWL released over a year later and was T2.

Maybe people just have no idea what they're talking about? MC was harder than anything in SWTOR btw.
yeah, that was a typo, you caught it before it was fixed. I cleared Naxx 40 during vanilla and was there for realm firsts for every boss from lucifron to KT, so i'm pretty familiar with raiding in wow. again, the first tier raid content for every wow expansion was a cakewalk, no different than swtor.

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iceperson
03.02.2012 , 08:56 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
No, it wasn't.

MC was tier 1, BWL released over a year later and was T2.

Maybe people just have no idea what they're talking about? MC was harder than anything in SWTOR btw.
did you just get here in a time machine from 2007? You seem to have missed every wow expansion for the past 5 years...

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Gohlar
03.02.2012 , 08:58 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
yeah, that was a typo, you caught it before it was fixed. I cleared Naxx 40 during vanilla and was there for realm firsts for every boss from lucifron to KT, so i'm pretty familiar with raiding in wow. again, the first tier raid content for every wow expansion was a cakewalk, no different than swtor.
Yep pugs were clearing it the 1st night just like SWTOR.

Love how everyone on forums has world 1sts too, it's amazing! You don't have any world 1sts if you think the vanilla raids are on par with SWTOR. End of story.

Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
did you just get here in a time machine from 2007? You seem to have missed every wow expansion for the past 5 years...
This makes no sense so I don't know what to say...