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East/West or Right/Left?

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East/West or Right/Left?

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Gonewild
03.01.2012 , 03:21 PM | #231
Never Eat Soggy Wheat.

I understand and accept both. Likewise on Alderaan; Snow, Wreck, and Middle (and most variations) are understood as well.

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Bovinity
03.01.2012 , 03:34 PM | #232
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Left/right is pure instinct, problem is not everyone understands its based on spawn point, which should be common sense.
I guess it's amazing to me that after all this time and all these posts, you still have some people saying it's "obvious" that Right/Left means from the spawn, and others saying it's "obvious" that Right/Left means on the map.

Somehow it eludes them that it's this very inconsistancy that makes East/West much simpler. Instead we keep seeing posts with people saying "lol u don't know ur rite from ur left".

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thanealpha
03.01.2012 , 03:35 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by Buckit View Post
That's what I'm puzzled over. If snow = east, why would you bother using "snow"? We learned cardinal directions years, if not decades, before we started playing warzones in TOR. You're adding a superfluous level of information.

People new to the warzones can be reasonably expected to know east and west but may not know what snow or grass means.
Because there are imperials that are confused with the fact that they're facing south not north.

I've seen this mostly amongst players who have a Rep main but are playing IMp side on an alt. East being to the left is not an intuitive direction for some people.

Another solution would be for BW to flip the minimap depending on which side you played on. So north was always forward. This would make e/w = r/l always.

Directions are ALL relative anyhow. For all we know the orientation of Aldaraan is NOT East and West....it could be that the top of the minimap is really NNW, which would make what some people call east ENE. Or maybe the top of the map is really East and the turrets are North and South.

And MID...think about Mid for a second....Mid is really North for Imp and South for Rep.

It's all just a matter of perspective.

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BDutch
03.01.2012 , 03:35 PM | #234
Inc starboard
Originally Posted by Puja
The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.

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AGoldCrayon
03.01.2012 , 03:37 PM | #235
East/west. Left/right is relative depending on whether you are south looking north or north looking south. East/west leaves no room for interpretation.

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xJeTsTaRx
03.01.2012 , 03:39 PM | #236
Im sure it was said but the least confusing way for alderann is

"Grass" / "Snow"

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DrekorSilverfang
03.01.2012 , 03:58 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Ogadai View Post
You're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. There is only one frame of reference that even logically makes any kind of sense when someone says left right and that is in relation to the starting position. Saying East/West is any easier than left/right and that people that prefer left right are stupid is all true for people that cant figure out left/right instead of east/west or snow/grass.

They all take memorization and thought process, wether its looking down at my mini map and saying oh, the other side, or remembering which way i face when i spawn i still have to think about it.

I personally dont care although i find the best results with left/right in voidstar on offense, and east/west on defense. And snow/mid/grass on CW
People that use Right/Left don't use logic as they don't frame the subjective directions into context and people that call those often call them based on different context. I had a voidstar map where 2 people were calling incs one said right the other said left. They both were making a call to the exact same door but from different context. That CANNOT happen with cardinal directions.

I've also been a ******** and when someone called "left" in voidstar I decided to take them quite literally and turn left and run in that direction. I ended up at the republic spawn because that was "left" from where I was currently at.

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Armaso
03.01.2012 , 04:39 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by thanealpha View Post
Directions are ALL relative anyhow. For all we know the orientation of Aldaraan is NOT East and West....it could be that the top of the minimap is really NNW, which would make what some people call east ENE. Or maybe the top of the map is really East and the turrets are North and South.

And MID...think about Mid for a second....Mid is really North for Imp and South for Rep.

It's all just a matter of perspective.
Absolutely wrong. The map is oriented with North up. If you don't believe me, look at the patch notes. Watch the red text in Void, it says east bomb etc.

Mid?! I don't even....it's just....HUH?

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TheBigBee
03.02.2012 , 08:49 AM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by armaso View Post
my first clue as to why you can't grasp this is your use of the word threw in place of through.

So here we are on our desert guide per your example. You are sitting in the front passenger seat and i am sitting in the bed with my back to the cab. The driver says "look to your left and you can see more sand." you look to your left and see more sand. I look to my left and see an oasis.

Had the driver said "look to the east and you will see more sand" we both would have been on the same page.

Point was, roads are rails for cars to drive on. Left right works fine in that structured environment. If we are in the desert and i tell you to head right, which way are you going to go? If i say head east, there is no question.

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you took out the constant......how dumb are you that you dont get the spawn never moves........just like the example of the road......everyone spawns in the same direction every time>>>>point of reference
PUT YOUR HELMET ON !!!

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Armaso
03.02.2012 , 08:57 AM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigBee View Post
you took out the constant......how dumb are you that you dont get the spawn never moves........just like the example of the road......everyone spawns in the same direction every time>>>>point of reference

It was your example, you said look to your right. I only pointed out the mistake in thinking that left right has a constant point of reference. Look in all these threads and you can see there is not. Some say spawn some say map. North is always North.

If everyone starts from spawn you can say go right or left. As soon as people are scattered, that idea goes out the window. A constant was set in place many years ago to prevent this. I am certainly not the dumb one for using it.