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Upgraded my CPU and am very pleased

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Upgraded my CPU and am very pleased

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Elladan
03.02.2012 , 08:24 AM | #91
Like someone else in this thread, I'm still running on a 4-year old home-built system, Q6600, 4GB Ram, and a GTX 460 (upgraded from busted 8800GT) and the gaming is running acceptable for now (I'm about to hit 50 so I'll have to check out Ilum soon). I have however looked around for an upgrade, and everything I put together comes out to around $1600, with all new components, incuding new case, HD, etc.
i5 2500K
8GB Ram
560Ti 448 cores
Asus MB
120 GB SSD primary drive
1TB 7.2k HDD data drive
BluRay DVD/Burner
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Vulgarr
03.02.2012 , 08:25 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Sheff View Post
If you have a monitor that runs at 60hz then your FPS will NOT exceed 60fps. Simply because your monitor cannot draw the frames any faster.
When it tries to you get screen tearing. So the frames you think you are getting are being lost. it's simply that the primary buffer in your GPU is trying to push more frames on screen per second than your monitor can handle.

So all these people saying they get 60+ fps are lying. It may still show in a fps counter that you are getting more because that is possibly what your rig is capable of.
But you are not getting those frames, they are lost as your monitor cannot draw them quickly enough.
So unless you have a monitor that supports above that refresh rate you will not get those frame rates.
If you don't believe me I can link an article about it.
Just a heads up for people.
they make 120hz monitors.

even 240 hz.

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Valkirus
03.02.2012 , 08:25 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Vulgarr View Post
the one on the LEFT is current FPS, the one on the right is the average FPS.

the only one you need to worry about is the one on the right.
The fps showing are about the same. Maybe 2 -3 difference between the two. And I am not concerned as I have it shut off now. It should'nt display more than 60 fps in my case which makes me beleave its not giving players accurate information.
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Gohlar
03.02.2012 , 08:25 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
And some let thier imaginations exceed reality. The turth is, most cannot tell any difference between 30 and 60 fps when conducted in a non bias condition. Not saying this applies to all, but to most it does.
I guess you're right, my Girlfriend always told me games were running fine for her when I wanted to make them run better.

But like I don't need to see any number, I recognize it right away. I can literally tell you the frame rate, within 5 fps usually, just by looking. It doesn't become silky smooth until like 55 for me.

The frame rate in pvp drives me crazy in these games. Both this and Rift seem stuck in the mid 40s.

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Midichlorien
03.02.2012 , 08:26 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by blackdots View Post
I understand that you feel your rig should be able to pull off that scenario at the "highest possible graphic settings," but it's important to realize what a petty complaint this is. On my i5 with 560gtx, I tweak my graphics settings to low for huge Ilum battles and only rarely drop to 25fps. It's very playable.

The point is: a lot of these threads are giving people the wrong impression (I know this because I had the wrong impression before upgrading) --- i.e. that ToR Ilum is going to be a slideshow no matter what you do with your comp. But now I know that's just not true, and that, in fact, even relatively inexpensive ($700) upgrades can make large open world PvP very viable.

These threads need to stop misleading people into thinking ToR WZ and open world are unplayable, when in fact it's just that some people consider anything under 60fps with highest possible settings to be "lag fest".
I not only feel it should perform better, I expect and insist on it.
I agree, that you don't need 60 fps for fluent playing, but 15 dps is somewhat at the limit. it's exactly the limit where occasional littel freezes occur, which are a no go for PvPing.

I have no problem with hardware crunching engines, if the result is appropriate, I adapt, but if I look on Illum, I wonder about the cost-benefit analysis.
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Mephistofilus
03.02.2012 , 08:27 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Sheff View Post
If you have a monitor that runs at 60hz then your FPS will NOT exceed 60fps. Simply because your monitor cannot draw the frames any faster.
When it tries to you get screen tearing. So the frames you think you are getting are being lost. it's simply that the primary buffer in your GPU is trying to push more frames on screen per second than your monitor can handle.

So unless you have a monitor that supports above that refresh rate you will not get those frame rates.
.

Is this true?
And let's hear from the people that are having the rates above 60...
are your monitors above 60hz?

PS.. i cant even FIND where it says what hz mine is running at.
I checked the web for the specs. maybe I'm overlooking?
I Have a Samsung S27A550H Digital

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Sheff
03.02.2012 , 08:27 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Vulgarr View Post
they make 120hz monitors.

even 240 hz.
I am aware of that mate I have a 120mhz monitor. if you read the post properly you will notice that I said you won;t get those frames unless you have one that is capable.
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Valkirus
03.02.2012 , 08:28 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Midichlorien View Post
I not only feel it should perform better, I expect and insist on it.
I agree, that you don't need 60 fps for fluent playing, but 15 dps is somewhat at the limit. it's exactly the limit where occasional littel freezes occur, which are a no go for PvPing.

I have no problem with hardware crunching engines, if the result is appropriate, I adapt, but if I look on Illum, I wonder about the cost-benefit analysis.
Yes. It is when you drop below 30 fps that you begin to see a real difference and when it drops below 20, it can have serous negative effects on game play.
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Sheff
03.02.2012 , 08:29 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Mephistofilus View Post
Is this true?
And let's hear from the people that are having the rates above 60...
are your monitors above 60hz?
Yes it's true. I have a 120mhz monitor btw.
That is what screen tearing is. Your GPU trying to push more frames than your monitor can handle. That's why I always find it hilarious when people claim to have 100+ fps when I am fairly sure most people don't have the monitor to support it.
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Zynellan
03.02.2012 , 08:30 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by mhuntly View Post
I had a 2.2GHz amd phenom x4 and upgraded to a i5 2500k. The i5 rofl stomps this game. I also have an msi 560ti twinfrozer2/oc. I have all graphics settings maxed out besides aa is on low and get 100+ fps besides in illums major battles I bog down to about 40fps which is completely payable. That is due to the servers not the "bad code".
Buy a $30-$40 aftermarket cpu cooler for the 2500k and you can hit 4.4 ghz easy.

This site is great for pc parts and comparisons:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ndup,2788.html

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