Premades getting a crutch to help them

Yeah if this is the way ranked is going to work casuals are just gonna quit the game in droves. Not worth sticking around when the organized players get even more of an advantage with superior gear. The rich get richer and all that. If these "veteran PvP developers" had a clue what they were doing, they would separate ranked into premade and solo. Players would have individual ratings which would allow them to be stacked up against similar competition in either bracket. That way skilled players who don't have the time to schedule with 7 other people can actually progress in PvP and not just get frustrated and quit. I'd prefer to actually have a variety of players to PvP against instead of the few hardcore people who will stay. And this is coming from someone who will be running a premade.

Let me see if I have your logic correct. They are adding entry level pvp gear so there isn't this gaping gap between fresh 50's and champion/BM geared players, and thus bring about more enjoyable play for everyone.

But then they are also going to add higher end rated PvP gear, to create yet another gap between the entry lvl players who finally acquireed their champ/BM gear just so they can be like fresh 50's in the rated bracket? If I got this wrong please flame the hell out of me, but to me it's simply the definition of insanity.

And if it goes the other way the entire player base looking for competitive PvP will leave.

SO the question is which would they prefer? The casuals who play with their baby on their lap and play for 1-2 hour sessions or the elite/professional players who will indirectly promote their game via Pro Circuit games, live streams, and websites...


hmm.......

Not everyone is as gregarious as you, perhaps? IRL some people have a circle of 40 "friends" while others have deeper relationships with 1 or 2. Most of the time, neither side can really identify well with the other. People who are more gregarious start to throw out the "antisocial" moniker, while those who are less gregarious throw it out in another flavor. Neither way is right, but clearly, in this game, one is better.

[edit] Having said that, the one side that is most likely to be insulting to the other is the "more-gregarious" pack, for some unknown-to-me reason. Witness some of the posts in this thread.

This is an MMO. Gear is progressive. When they release a new set of PvP gear, they will probably make the current gear easier to acquire. Why is that a problem? It's how it works in every MMO.

As to premades getting an advantage.. If they follow WoW's gear system, then only the good premades are going to have access to the top rated gear, and the bad premades are going to be battling it out below the minimum required rating for that gear. The good premades that do get the gear, 99% of the time will beat you anyway, even without slightly better gear. So why is everyone crying?

This man has a good point. This man also failed to look at Blizzard's model that caters to casual gamers. Why did they do this? Because that is where your money is. Catering to a small crowd of young adults working part time while going to college, or older gamers with no life (sorry to insult but its true) is all well and good, but a business will make more money catering to as many age groups as possible, ie. casual gamers.

The good premades that do get the gear, 99% of the time will beat you anyway, even without slightly better gear. So why is everyone crying?

the example i like to use is. "even if the beer softball team takes on the NY Yankees. do the Yankees get bigger bats? or do both teams head out with access to the same gear?"