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Premades getting a crutch to help them

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Premades getting a crutch to help them

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solnar_xan
03.01.2012 , 02:57 PM | #171
Some of us have been grinding gear for like 20 years now (not just in MMO games); it is getting a bit old... gear doesn't matter really so why do we need it -> to have a reason to pay to play.

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Sleeptastic
03.01.2012 , 02:57 PM | #172
People do not gear up in rated PVP to roflstomp unrated PVP. If anything this will get the most geared people out of unrated PVP.

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Nigyl
03.01.2012 , 03:02 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Sleeptastic View Post
People do not gear up in rated PVP to roflstomp unrated PVP. If anything this will get the most geared people out of unrated PVP.
You are extremely naive (or possibly trolling).
The "BW PvP rewards dilemma":
-too much loot for just queuing up, and the bots/afkers ruin the economy.
-too little for a win and people stop queuing.
-too wide a gap between winning and losing and we burn the forums!

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Inhibition
03.01.2012 , 03:08 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Sleeptastic View Post
People do not gear up in rated PVP to roflstomp unrated PVP. If anything this will get the most geared people out of unrated PVP.
That doesn't change the fact that Joe Schmoe at some random time during the day when his crew isn't online will que up for a non rated WZ with his rated gear.

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Vegathegreat
03.01.2012 , 03:09 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by ursuul View Post
....... of course they want the best items. but do these "elite gamers" really want to spend time roflstomping new players solely due to gear? I don't know about you but i don't consider someone who actually argues for an uneven playing field an "elite gamer". maybe more of a "teen ager?"
i love how everyone uses solely due to gear when they try to defend gear not being for progression......

Good players win 1v1 regardless, the bad player doesnt stand a chance

Good players win 1v2's most of the time regardless of gear

Good players need the gear diff to start to take on 1v3 and 1v4 scenario's

Do you have any idea how boring the game will be for skilled players if you dont have higher tiers of gear.......if you already peg players at the mathematical limit cuz believe me it is not hard to achieve maximum potential in this game. Everyone's abilities will hit for roughly the same amount leaving no room to quickly dispatch a foe and move on to the next one.

You would basically tell players, you know it would be fun to go try and 1v3 that node but looking at the math its impossible.......soo guess we are camping this node and staring at the sky allday......

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Inhibition
03.01.2012 , 03:18 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Vegathegreat View Post
i love how everyone uses solely due to gear when they try to defend gear not being for progression......

Good players win 1v1 regardless, the bad player doesnt stand a chance

Good players win 1v2's most of the time regardless of gear

Good players need the gear diff to start to take on 1v3 and 1v4 scenario's

Do you have any idea how boring the game will be for skilled players if you dont have higher tiers of gear.......if you already peg players at the mathematical limit cuz believe me it is not hard to achieve maximum potential in this game. Everyone's abilities will hit for roughly the same amount leaving no room to quickly dispatch a foe and move on to the next one.

You would basically tell players, you know it would be fun to go try and 1v3 that node but looking at the math its impossible.......soo guess we are camping this node and staring at the sky allday......
Creating a situation in which you could go 1v3 some group defending a node is far more game breaking than building a game that forces a defending group to stare at the sky for a few moments until action strikes.

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Manigma
03.01.2012 , 03:19 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Inhibition View Post
That doesn't change the fact that Joe Schmoe at some random time during the day when his crew isn't online will que up for a non rated WZ with his rated gear.
My ultimate goal is to get rated pvp gear and pwn noobs in unranked, umad?

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Vegathegreat
03.01.2012 , 03:19 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Inhibition View Post
Creating a situation in which you could go 1v3 some group camping a node is far more game breaking than building a game that forces a defending group to stare at the sky for a few moments until action strikes.
its not game breaking when the gear only goes to 1% of the population for being the top of the rated WZ's

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Inhibition
03.01.2012 , 03:25 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Manigma View Post
My ultimate goal is to get rated pvp gear and pwn noobs in unranked, umad?
I assure you I am not. My friends and I will certainly be doing the same thing once the rated gear is acquired. And thats the problem at hand. Good effort at being witty though.

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XenonParsec
03.01.2012 , 03:26 PM | #180
Sure wish bads from PvE servers would stop whining about premades. It's a fact of mmo life, people will group up to play pvp together, and some of them will be good at it. Altering the game to punish friends for playing together is obtuse, and smacks of being a baddie. Instead of being bad, why not form your own premade.

The next great forum whines from bads will be "i took damage in pvp while capping a node, BW plz fix!!!"