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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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BlackZoback
03.01.2012 , 11:40 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
Hahaha.. That's a good one. Sincerely hope that you are not of age yet to vote this November.
Your going to be sorely disappointed.

And what does voting have to do with anything other then you being an obvious liberal ?

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JSykes
03.01.2012 , 11:43 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
Why do we 'need' more endgame content?

Why don't we strive for more storytelling content, more interactive content, more ways to make the journey longer and more involved.

Why does every MMO, have a devolve into this cave man mentality of '"My stick is longer than your stick!"

This game is, as far as I can tell, about story telling and creativity. it's about Star Wars, and it's about having fun.

We don't need the toxic pall of Alpha Male Posturing. Save that for TERA, D3, and GW2. >_>
Because leveling up is boring as ****? You can dress it all up with story and voice and hype it up, but it still sucks, and end game is where the fun was supposed to be (in TOR it's not sadly). Adding more annoying voice that you can't skip altogether and making leveling up take longer isn't the answer. Challenging and Rewarding content is. WoW's raids have minimalistic ingame story behind them, it tells you who what when and where, and then you go in and kill ****, and it's challenging, rewarding and FUN. TOR it's just grab 6-7 of your buddies and go herp derp through it spamming the space bar all the way.
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stephenjohnp
03.01.2012 , 11:43 AM | #123
I have literally "finished" the game in a week or so. All that's left to do now in senselessly grind PvP.

There is far too little content in this game. I seriously can't wait for a serious MMO like GW2 to come out.

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BlackZoback
03.01.2012 , 11:45 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by OldBenSmokin View Post
I like you Azz, but you're wrong here friend.


Edit: Im late to the dogpile I see.
Actually your both right and both wrong, only certain zones in WoW have day/night cycles and they are barely noticeable either way.

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Dayfax
03.01.2012 , 11:46 AM | #125
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Yes its all a big giant coincidence, keep drinking that kool-aid.

Those 600 people lost their jobs because blizzards bottom line isn't looking so good anymore, because they are bleeding subscriptions from their cash cow.

ToR is sucking them dry, and they can feel it all the way to the corporate big wigs.

Look for more bad news coming form bilzzard in the near future.
Yes, Blizzard's gross revenue is just terrible -- to the tune of ~$68 million a month, all from a single property. My god, how will they ever survive?

At their height, WoW had 12 million or so subscribers. Now they have about 10. The bulk of those are in Asia, but the bulk of Blizzard's revenue comes from NA/EU subscribers. That base is still around 4-5 million active subs, or 2-3 times the size of SWTOR's entire playerbase.

Explain to me again how TOR has had this massive impact on WoW? Because as of right now, it hasn't.
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Snibb
03.01.2012 , 11:48 AM | #126
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And WoW with 4 years of development launched with just Molten Core and Onyxia, the latter being a single boss encounter, raids added in with patch 1.1 right around when the game came out.

And after that Nov'04 launch? Next raid, Blackwing's Lair came in a patch in Jul'05 ... that's right, roughly 8 months after launch.
Blackwing's Lair, Ahn'Qiraj and Naxxramas were the only 40 person raids (WoW's default size at the time) added in the first 1.5 years of launch.

There were other 5 mans scattered in, like Dire Maul and a 20 person lesser-raid, Zul'Gurub.

But please, let's not try to sugarcoat WoW's endgame content availability during "vanilla".
There was also no way to max level in 2 weeks.
If you have a game that is this easy to level in, you need one of two things.
1. A great system for leveling alts.
2. A ton of max level content to keep your player base entertained.

We'll see what the legacy system brings, but from what I see this game is not designed for leveling alts as the only new stuff you'll see is class quest on the way up, and the ratio of class versus side quests tips heavily in the side quests favor.

I also do not like WoW, but for Pete's sake, learn from their mistakes and from their success!
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Icebaron
03.01.2012 , 11:48 AM | #127
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Actually your both right and both wrong, only certain zones in WoW have day/night cycles and they are barely noticeable either way.
No, one is right the other is wrong. WoW does have day/night cycles. The sun moves in the sky. You can watch is rise and watch it set. How are they both right and wrong?

One says "There are no day/night cycles in WoW"
the other says "There are day/night cycles in WoW"


There is no gray area here.

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BlackZoback
03.01.2012 , 11:49 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by stephenjohnp View Post
There is far too little content in this game. I seriously can't wait for a serious MMO like GW2 to come out.
Me neither, I seriously can't wait for the "GW2 is the second coming" crowd to leave.

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Muskaan
03.01.2012 , 11:55 AM | #129
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Me neither, I seriously can't wait for the "GW2 is the second coming" crowd to leave.
Any AAA MMO that's yet to release is always dubbed as the "second coming" of the genre.
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BlackZoback
03.01.2012 , 12:00 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebaron View Post
No, one is right the other is wrong. WoW does have day/night cycles. The sun moves in the sky. You can watch is rise and watch it set. How are they both right and wrong?

One says "There are no day/night cycles in WoW"
the other says "There are day/night cycles in WoW"


There is no gray area here.
If something is not present in all the zones and is so insignificant you can miss it, it might as well not exist.

For some people it didn't, hell I played for 6 years and I had to look it up to see if it was there or not.