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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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The thought that WoW has more endgame content

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Muskaan
03.01.2012 , 10:55 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
You know if you need to cut your losses and you don't have as many costumers the costumer service department would be the first to go.
Heh.. what's ironic is that even with 2 million loss in subscriptions, they have 5 times as many subs as any other MMO in the market.
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BlackZoback
03.01.2012 , 11:00 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
Heh.. what's ironic is that even with 2 million loss in subscriptions, they have 5 times as many subs as any other MMO in the market.
Asian gold farming account shouldn't count, but since they did you now get this over-inflated subscription number they have been toting for years now.

Wouldn't be surprised if there US/Euro/Aussie subs only account for 20-30% of that number.

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Azzras
03.01.2012 , 11:01 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
Heh.. what's ironic is that even with 2 million loss in subscriptions, they have 5 times as many subs as any other MMO in the market.
And 85% of them pay like 3-5 cents per hour but are counted as active subs...
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Dayfax
03.01.2012 , 11:04 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
You know if you need to cut your losses and you don't have as many costumers the costumer service department would be the first to go.
Read this, from people in the tech industry (especially the first two posts):

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3649179

That'll give you a little background on (1) how big corps layoff employees and (2) why Blizzard might have felt the need to pair down the size of its support staff.

Regardless, there is nothing here that can really be tied to anything having to do with SWTOR, which was your original point.

Costumers indeed!
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Icysunx
03.01.2012 , 11:07 AM | #105
Wow did not have more engame, it was just more fun to play for a variety of reasons people have already pointed out

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Zsombor
03.01.2012 , 11:12 AM | #106
Its not an argument that wow is 8year old and swtor is just some month.......
If I buy a product like a car or anything else u dont compare it to 1908 Ford T-mobile, always want to buy the best on the market.
SWTOR should match to WOW nowadays or any other mmo at current stage.
Useless thread,defending an wow clone game with compering it to original game is a bad start,if u would maybe start with the innovations in swtor /I know its hard to find any/ u could be a good fanboy.

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NotSevv
03.01.2012 , 11:18 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by dazednconfuzed View Post
Thought #1...
Well, yes, of course WoW has more raid content... I mean, they have been going for what, nearly 8 years, and had 3 expansions?
I mean if you really want to get into this argument then wow couldn't compete with FFXI. I am happy with the current endgame as it gave people time to get up now if we go without new raids for the next few months without new things then we have problems. Don't forget that we were given Kaon post release. I would much rather have "less bugs" in ops then a rush of them personally.


Quote: Originally Posted by Icebaron View Post
What WoW has that SWTOR does not

In the works
Nice to add
Really?
Useless

Quote: Originally Posted by Icebaron View Post
Arena **Would like to see this added I believe they dropped a hint about this tho**
Flying Mounts **while we don't have it we do have space combat**
Rated Battleground
LFD finder
Open World Feel **This is a hard one to get into WoW is one world, now SWTOR is across multiple worlds. I didn't feel like I wasn't on any of the planets I don't know if you want huge worlds but hard to get into this**
Smooth reactive gameplay
Swimming **So where do I need to swim?**
Chairs to sit in **check your space ship**
Day/Night cycles **from an immersion stand point would be nice but it is kind of player pref**
Vastly different races **Not new races but more of a racial story would be nice in terms of lore/story**
Factions you can support **hands down needed**
Leaders worth following **Maybe your playing on the wrong side or hitting spacebar too much, thrall was cool but I wasn't too impressed other then him**
Dual Spec
Weapon choices **You are playing star wars, lightsabers or guns, bh have missles etc but you should have known this going in**
Crafting professions that matter **Crafting is always awesome on a launch... we need to see what 1.2 will change**
Economy that works **Depends on your server**
Multiple Hubs people gather at **We have 2 main hubs on our server Ilum or Fleet, more hubs means less people to talk with**
Decent framerates in hubs mentioned above
Capitol city raids **Planet sieges would be fun, also would give a third hub**
Modable UI
Multiple zones to level in (1-60 anyways)
Target Dummies
Holidays
Choice of pets
Barbershop **Pick your character better if you don't like it I won't be surprised if it was added later**
Armory ** These will come, we still aren't at 1.2 yet**
Sever Transfers
Faction Transfers **I would love to see a lightsided sith be able to change as well as a dark side jedi, could be alot of fun**
Name/Race Changes **Hell no, ninja's would be able to escape**
Forums that link to characters in game ** I put this in nice because it makes it a bit more fun to hunt someone**
GM's in game that come talk to you when you open a ticket **I get live gm's so maybe I'm doing something right**
Guides and fansites galore for every aspect of gaming **That is a community issue**
Moonguard Goldshire ERP
Guild Tabards
Choice of Battleground/Warzone entered
Combat Log **Yes please**
Rare Spawns
Achievements **Check your codex**
Class specific mounts **Could argue ships tho jedi/sith share between war and counciler/inq**
Factions to gain affection with
Easily accessable dueling centers **If you want to duel someone hit the duel button**
Restrictions on mounts at Auction House
Fishing ** this also goes for cooking, its a different game in other mmo's it is considered a craft and takes up your crafting slot, biochem people**
Cooking
Organic AND mechanical mounts
Classes that can teleport other players ** For both because 1 hour fleet passes are hard to come by**
Classes that can summon other players
Beer
Macros

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Azzras
03.01.2012 , 11:18 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Zsombor View Post
Its not an argument that wow is 8year old and swtor is just some month.......
If I buy a product like a car or anything else u dont compare it to 1908 Ford T-mobile, always want to buy the best on the market.
SWTOR should match to WOW nowadays or any other mmo at current stage.
Useless thread,defending an wow clone game with compering it to original game is a bad start,if u would maybe start with the innovations in swtor /I know its hard to find any/ u could be a good fanboy.
Fine,

SWTOR has more current raids than wow

How's that?
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ferroz
03.01.2012 , 11:19 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by sikandar View Post
While there are several maps to choose from the most popular is to sit in Orgimar or Stormwind and wait for the magical faeries to whisk you away to the loot pinata you queued up for.
Do you have a source on "most popular" or is that just baseless speculation?

Everyone I know who has leveled alts since the lfd went in place would quest in between dungeons, so your claim doesn't jibe with my experience at all.

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ThiborF
03.01.2012 , 11:19 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by muzzle_flash View Post
While I hate the bloated blizzard monster pig as much the the next guy, to suggest that swtor has even a fraction of its content is laughable, no matter how you look at it. With 3 years of dev love swtor still couldnt match that behemoth for content...
And WoW with 4 years of development launched with just Molten Core and Onyxia, the latter being a single boss encounter, raids added in with patch 1.1 right around when the game came out.

And after that Nov'04 launch? Next raid, Blackwing's Lair came in a patch in Jul'05 ... that's right, roughly 8 months after launch.
Blackwing's Lair, Ahn'Qiraj and Naxxramas were the only 40 person raids (WoW's default size at the time) added in the first 1.5 years of launch.

There were other 5 mans scattered in, like Dire Maul and a 20 person lesser-raid, Zul'Gurub.

But please, let's not try to sugarcoat WoW's endgame content availability during "vanilla".