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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Telaan
03.01.2012 , 02:52 AM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Grifin View Post
I said i have problem if some skilled hybrid sorc jump on me.
Usually i am fine and i can take fight with them.

I tell you.. untill yday i thought i can beat any sorc... except geared healer... thats looong booring run.

But yday hybrid specced BM sorck took me 1v1.

He started with lightings .. when some of his tick crit ? how much dps he can pull out in 2 secs ?

Ok jump on him ... interupt, stsckign singularity.. free blade storm.. and then
He right now lost is buble.. ..i want to use force sweep but cos his animation is faster.. am knocked away... my sweep missed and he smahing me again with force lightning..
But with his aoe knocback i got roots.. wich does not count to resolve !
So atm my only chance was pop up enure , try cc breaker for heal if its crit and jump on him . becouse 4-5 sec roots while he dpsing and he did not have weak dmg ! was sure dead.

Thing is am off any cc breaker now and he still has 1 instant 4 sec stun, whirlwind in any case something goes wrong.

Yea i maybe made mistake but my point is they have acces to mayn abilities wich are in combo = Op ... As rooted i cant jump on him.. but as rooted i dont have resolve filled up.

thats it... As guardian i have 15800 hp .... he had 16,700 + buble...
You got beat. So what? You admitted yourself you have no problems most of the time. I win and I lose, its part of PvP. Some people (notably the most vehement nerf callers) can't handle that.
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Grifin
03.01.2012 , 02:56 AM | #222
Ouki .. i make one more clear state..

I dont want to nerf their dmg... and i dont blame u for speccing hybrids.
Thats BW fault in design that hybrid is better then pure dps spec

So my point is dont want nerf sorc dmg.. but nerf abilities wich annoy your game play.
I dont want be cced all the time.. in hutball you flying like ping pong ball.

But combination of avarage dmg and alot of roots, stuns, mezz.. etc.. its giving big advantage againts certain classes..


For example soem fix..

Aoe knocback as it now - but if u ut talent here, make it like roots only... not knocback and root for 5 sec every 20 sec... this is realy annoying.

and am not talking when you meet 4 + sorck specced liek this in any Wz ...

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Grifin
03.01.2012 , 02:58 AM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by Telaan View Post
You got beat. So what? You admitted yourself you have no problems most of the time. I win and I lose, its part of PvP. Some people (notably the most vehement nerf callers) can't handle that.


Telaan :

I got beat.. am not crying for nerf... but for fix.
With my gear and his i died and he stayd with 90 % of his hp ..

like that.. no fair game should end like this..
Its totally diferent then loose to him with 20 % left...
then i can say yes he is better.. but this diference was huge.

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Telaan
03.01.2012 , 03:00 AM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by Grifin View Post
Ouki .. i make one more clear state..

I dont want to nerf their dmg... and i dont blame u for speccing hybrids.
Thats BW fault in design that hybrid is better then pure dps spec

So my point is dont want nerf sorc dmg.. but nerf abilities wich annoy your game play.
I dont want be cced all the time.. in hutball you flying like ping pong ball.

But combination of avarage dmg and alot of roots, stuns, mezz.. etc.. its giving big advantage againts certain classes..


For example soem fix..

Aoe knocback as it now - but if u ut talent here, make it like roots only... not knocback and root for 5 sec every 20 sec... this is realy annoying.

and am not talking when you meet 4 + sorck specced liek this in any Wz ...
The root breaks on damage after 2 seconds. Their cc is fine given their burst potential....which is nonexistent. I have far better burst in focus than they do period.
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DragonAgeOrgins
03.01.2012 , 03:00 AM | #225
Proof OP is crying and he's calling for NERFS

says right here

SORC/SAGE-MUST DIE IN LAKES OF FIREY NERFS

read and be aware

http://i42.tinypic.com/205rpr9.jpg

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GrandMike
03.01.2012 , 03:04 AM | #226
Quote: Originally Posted by Grifin View Post
Ouki .. i make one more clear state..

I dont want to nerf their dmg... and i dont blame u for speccing hybrids.
Thats BW fault in design that hybrid is better then pure dps spec

So my point is dont want nerf sorc dmg.. but nerf abilities wich annoy your game play.
I dont want be cced all the time.. in hutball you flying like ping pong ball.

But combination of avarage dmg and alot of roots, stuns, mezz.. etc.. its giving big advantage againts certain classes..


For example soem fix..

Aoe knocback as it now - but if u ut talent here, make it like roots only... not knocback and root for 5 sec every 20 sec... this is realy annoying.

and am not talking when you meet 4 + sorck specced liek this in any Wz ...
Eh? Commando/Merc have 2 knocbacks. On shorter CD. NERF!
Assasin/Sahdow has knockbacks. NERF!
Vanguard/PT has pull. NERF!
Jugg/Guardian have knockback. NERF!
.....

Having commandos+shadows+friendly/hostile leapers in your team >>>>> than having sorcs.

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Jundi
03.01.2012 , 03:13 AM | #227
The only way a sorc could ever be OP is if Cloud Mind worked in PvP because the targeting sucks so bad.
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Grifin
03.01.2012 , 03:18 AM | #228
dragon age - ok you are here in this post only to annoy normal ppl.. No smart argue form you ...


Telaan .. yes .. 2 sec 2 tisck wich can crit for 2 k more
then he stops and will heal him self.. getting extra time.
When i am out he still can use his stun.

GrandMike .. this is discusion about hybrid sorc spec.. nt about trooper or Bh ..
also you advice is " bring team " ?



Any fo you who discusing with me NEVER gave any advice... you just say how ppl are bad
but if you play Guardian as u say, pls gimme help then ? Instead of this.

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Redmarx
03.01.2012 , 03:30 AM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by Grifin View Post
dragon age - ok you are here in this post only to annoy normal ppl.. No smart argue form you ...

Telaan .. yes .. 2 sec 2 tisck wich can crit for 2 k more
then he stops and will heal him self.. getting extra time.
When i am out he still can use his stun.

GrandMike .. this is discusion about hybrid sorc spec.. nt about trooper or Bh ..
also you advice is " bring team " ?

Any fo you who discusing with me NEVER gave any advice... you just say how ppl are bad
but if you play Guardian as u say, pls gimme help then ? Instead of this.

The only advice you need to hear Grifin, is that you're bad at PVP and need to improve.

If you think sorcs are OP and cannot deal with them on your guardian, it's because you lack skill and understanding of how the game works.

Stop crying on forums. Practice PVP and get better. That is all.

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Grifin
03.01.2012 , 03:57 AM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
The only advice you need to hear Grifin, is that you're bad at PVP and need to improve.

If you think sorcs are OP and cannot deal with them on your guardian, it's because you lack skill and understanding of how the game works.

Stop crying on forums. Practice PVP and get better. That is all.

And you first read all comments before you post. And again ..
no1 give real advice.. just L2P .. that can say only one, who play class we talkin about.

Its same as Operatives.. they couldnt admit that their insta kill in stun lock was OP ..
Instead they said L2P and bring team ... rofl. .same as you ..

Edit : once more.. am not complaining, i was telling that Op is right in some steps.
I never said nerf to ground.. i said nerf some utilities that as hybrid u cant have this and this .. I rather see generaly classes without any CC... and how it would be awesome..