This game lacks epeen

My wife and I just cleared EV normal for the first time. We got a few things yet others in our group did not. I dont see that as an ver abundance of rewards. It sure as heck beats the RNG lame sauce that wows end game was.

I wanted to find the post you quoted to quote it myself becaues I also aggree with it. I couldnt find it yet. Anyway, I like it as well.

What you mean run trough hardmode and get geared , while then play the RNG range for the mainhand columni weapon ?

I don´t think they are flooded with rewards , since you have to remod tons of enhancement in rataka gear .. or you say done with rataka that is it GG ...

So wearing less then optimal gear is hardcore nowadays :P

Epeen be damned sorry , so what if everybody is walking around in rataka or BM ...
If people aren´t enjoying the game , they ain´t going to enjoy the game with beter gear.

And if people need illusion of being beter then other , yeah let them go work for it real style . do dailies .
Or make nightmare mode , really suffering repair cost and drop legendary ...
But then again today gamers are not the patience kind anymore .
So let epeen mean nothing , is best solution most hardcore already quit sadly .
Cause simple reason they don´t care about others , they are done nothing in for them.

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It seems to me that those "self proclaimed casual" from the other MMO banded together, united putting up strong resistance vs the hardcores or any logic for that matter.

Like the scarlet crusade, a group of maddend zealots so dedicated in ridding "the experience" they had with the hardcore raiders in the other MMO. Ruled more by emotions in thier arguement then logic.

I REALLY wish the OP didn't use the word epeen in the title..

I like you.

Honestly, alot of people in this thread don't get it. The OP is right, this game needs more of the good Hardcore crowd, not the arrogant ******es that think they are the ****, but the ones that drive the websites, make theorycrafting, make videos, drive guilds and drive events! It's THESE people the ones that make the base of the community! Community makes MMOs guys! I mean there's a reason SWG limped for 4 more years after NGE... it was the very community that held the last line of flesh that game ever had.

The hardcore crowd factor however is something that not many people get, since it's really not seen as directly as other stuff. Like a poster at the second page mentioned. The reason WoW got so popular was cause the hardcores spread good word of mouth to the rest of the gaming world. Word of mouth is one of the most, if not THE most powerful advertising tool in the entire world of marketing and these people were doing it for free.

Hardcore people drive games guys.... but they need a reason to stay as well, and the good thing about it, it's it really doesn't have to be physical. It could be something behind the scenes like an actual "nightmare" mode in raiding. Something that poses a challenge and gives them the means to go after the bragging rights. Alot of people say "Hardcores need shinies nobody else can get to play" NO that mentality was created by WoW.... if you look up other MMOs before WoW, the hardcore playerbase went for stuff that wasn't even gear related.... sometimes it was extremely hard boss kills, or grinding alot of classes till you unlocked the ultimate class ( ala SWG ), or maybe grinding this mob so many times for a specific item, even at times taking a town or city for a period of time. It varied from game to game, and the neat thing about it was that it was optional to the casual player, as in 100% optional!

The OP is right, the hardcores are needed in the community as much as the casuals and a community without hardcore players is like a government without leadership. If this game loses it's hardcore community, good luck finding RP events in RP servers and good luck finding great guild leaders and that's just 1% of the things that will happen to this game when these guys leave. That's my 2 cents!

Span loaders only need one.

Two words explain why games have been nerfed down to easy mode....entitlement generation.