This game lacks epeen

I completely and utterly agree. The only qualm that I have with SW:TOR is that it lacks any means of hardcore grinding with a substantive reward.

Spoken like a true Blizz Employee but I'll play. WoW became big not because they catered to Hardcore players its because they catered to the Casual player by incorporating the following.

1.) Single player leveling progression.
2.) Macro's for lazy button smashers.
3.) Looking For Group tool system better known as LFG
4.) Battle grounds for people who want instant battles vs World PvP.

And there are probably more that I can add to this but I can see your mind is made up on how a game should be. The fact of the matter is "CASUALS" like it or not are the driving force of every MMO to date but that doesn't mean that SWTOR content is any different from WoW. I think the content is harder to accomplish for the simple fact is you don't have a LFG system and you really have to work at it to complete a quest/Dungeon/Raid.

WoW has 6+ years over SWTOR which has been out for over 2 months but there are a lot of new innovations this game has brought to the genre and if you haven't seen it than your blind or scared.

The arguement about challenging content and "phat lewt" is relative to each person. There may not be enough as to what you want, but that does not mean the vast majority of players are not content.

The game is not about creating the most difficult content for a small minority of the population. They tried that with WoW, and now look where they are. They tried to create an Arena system for those who wanted a big epeen, and it ended up unbalancing PVE terribly. Lets not do the same thing with this game.

The question should be "What is Bioware's intended audience?" It is obviously the more casual player who wants story, fun and accessability. It matters not what the minority hardcore epeen obsessed people want. They cannot be all things to all people. Be happy the focussed on the casual gamer first, becuase the vast majority of people can't play more than 10-15 hours a week. They are the ones keeping this game alive, and not the hardcore epeen lovers.

Good games and good patches take time. If you rush things out the door you end up with WoW raids. I played WoW for over 4 years and have been raiding since MC and UBRS, we don't want them to rush out half broken content.

I basically understand what you want to express but you have to see the true nature of the game. It was created as a great Star Wars MMORPG where the dream of millions of fans who like the idea of a multiplayer game where a lot of people can play together in a great universe.

You can find some interesting announcements from 2 years ago where BioWare proudly presents theire ideas what the game should be like. So player dreamed of this world and everything seemed to be awesome and great but then the game has been released.

The whole concept is based on a KOTOR III single player game. In such a game you dont need any hardcore player and nowdays you dont even have something to accomplish what is hard to reach anyway. It is just concepted as an interactive movie.

That is what we find truly in the game voice acting all the way is not a good argument for a MMORPG. Other developers know why they dont implement such a feature because it doesnt support the nature of a multiplayer game.

BioWare took this argument as theire main point. If you look at the list which voice actors they hired you can understand where all the millions have gone because they took really well known ones ( I dont know how the english version is like but I can speak about the german version ).

What I want to say is that this game is a blender. It took all the imagination of the gamers and then destroyed them at the bottom. It is a twink game where you just level a new alt after another.

There wont ever be a theory crafting or something because the game isnt designed for raiding or a real competition this is another blending of the users. Only if I imagine how many time and money it would take to change this system I can only cry. If you look at the endgame they really couldnt care less.

We all here did our duty already and bought the game. If we stay well its ok for BioWare if we go away well be that way then. They got our money that was the only goal.

It was a fail game from the beginning but I didnt want it to understand because I hoped for a new MMORPG with a fresh setting. All I see is a singleplayer game with some multiplayer aspects but which doesnt build the basic of the game.

So back to the topic: hardcore gamers are wrong all the way in playing this game and BioWare doesnt need them and doesnt care at all. What they need they've already got: some fans of everything they do, some StarWars fans and some people who were trapped by the huge advertisment capaign.

The arguement about challenging content and "phat lewt" is relative to each person. There may not be enough as to what you want, but that does not mean the vast majority of players are not content.

The game is not about creating the most difficult content for a small minority of the population. They tried that with WoW, and now look where they are. They tried to create an Arena system for those who wanted a big epeen, and it ended up unbalancing PVE terribly. Lets not do the same thing with this game.

The question should be "What is Bioware's intended audience?" It is obviously the more casual player who wants story, fun and accessability. It matters not what the minority hardcore epeen obsessed people want. They cannot be all things to all people. Be happy the focussed on the casual gamer first, becuase the vast majority of people can't play more than 10-15 hours a week. They are the ones keeping this game alive, and not the hardcore epeen lovers.

Good games and good patches take time. If you rush things out the door you end up with WoW raids. I played WoW for over 4 years and have been raiding since MC and UBRS, we don't want them to rush out half broken content.

I don´t know what hardcore gamers complain about ..

When you have no macro no adons , and have to play hardcore purely on your own skills.
characters that have to access 10-20 buttons , with each thing timed to a certain specification.

A game easy to get in and hard to master , heroic 2-4 to solo .
Just for the fun of stress and hardmode , since rewards aren´t the issue for hardcore.
They are welcome but not really needed .

Oh has hardcore gamer changed to , I need a easy 3 button pressing macro´s that casual cannot make .
I want rewards that casual cannot get , with a lot of effort .
Hardcore gamer seek his own challenges purely cause they love the stress and teamwork.

Or has it turned into I want EPICS and be called HARDCORE !!

meh, I am not to worried about it at all. I played SWTOR exclusively for 2 months straight, and got a level 37 Assassin and a level 35 Juggernaut in that time frame, with about 200 hours of total played time between the 2 characters, averaging about 3 hours per day. Yeah I played this game way way to much in a 2 month time frame. I decided to drop my play time in this game to about 5 hours per week, and get back to playing some of my Single player games that I have not finished or even install yet, plus I have some other non gaming hobbies that I would like to get back in to.

So yeah, epeen means nothing to me.