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Blackardin
02.29.2012 , 05:36 PM | #441
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Originally Posted by Boxcar
I find arrogant bads (who seem to be happy that this game is easy and bad) to be far more insufferable than arrogant elitists.
Well, except the "arrogant elitists" are playing the wrong game. Oops. ;p

This is not a shooter, friend. If you had read up on that you would have known before you subbed. Its not even wow. In fact, I'm tending to (although it is a sort of ad hominem) that you may be as great as you argue.

I've raided all of wow, had a few server first, tanked everything and lead just about every type of raid. I've often found that these "elite" players are not very elite at all, just looking for a balance that they can handle and most of the casuals cannot. That became quite apparent when the lockout changed in wow and almost all of them defaulted to the easier content.

Anyway, I personally love this game. It is much more relaxed and fun. It is everything that I expected....but...then...I did take the time to read up and understand what the game was about. ;p

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Blackardin
02.29.2012 , 05:38 PM | #442
Quote: Originally Posted by Abiza View Post
The large majority of the threads you speak of are actually posted by people such as yourself with little knowledge of the game. It's most obvious in the class forums where the "casuals" keep posting very bad information to other casuals. It's very noticeable in the PvP forums as well.

Get off your high horse. According to you, that's only for "hardcores"

Bads will be bads.
Please.... LOL

I remember the ole "care bear" argument utilized by those same people that now use the "bad" argument. Being a raider I did not PvP much. Then I tried it. It is as much a cake walk as any aspect of any of these games.

It is certainly nothing to brag about.

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Tsaritsin
02.29.2012 , 05:41 PM | #443
This game lacks epeen

Good,

Close the door on your way out, thx



/Wave
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The flaws in my ENGINE are multiplying exponentially,
And my Death is inevitable, I am not worth mourning."

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Abiza
02.29.2012 , 05:48 PM | #444
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Please.... LOL

I remember the ole "care bear" argument utilized by those same people that now use the "bad" argument. Being a raider I did not PvP much. Then I tried it. It is as much a cake walk as any aspect of any of these games.

It is certainly nothing to brag about.
Congrats on completely missing the point of my post
"At the end of the day everyone has to die, you should be honored the assassin chose you to die."

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Abiza
02.29.2012 , 05:57 PM | #445
On another note, when did the self-proclaimed "casuals" become so damn defensive and sensitive?
"At the end of the day everyone has to die, you should be honored the assassin chose you to die."

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Ansultares
02.29.2012 , 06:04 PM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by Omicronmd View Post
I think the whole concept creates more social divides that we don't really need. We have enough of it in real life. I can see how this is going to turn into a Capitalism vs Socialism debate rather quickly.
Good, as we've seen what happens when you follow either philosophy, whether in older MMOs (capitalism) or newer MMOs (socialism).

Quote: Originally Posted by Abiza View Post
On another note, when did the self-proclaimed "casuals" become so damn defensive and sensitive?
Someone once said on this forum, possibly even in this thread, that the debate seems to be between people who like e-peen, and people who are jealous and ashamed of feeling unable to e-peen (even though they full well can and do, those pretentious casual elitists that they are).

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Smitar
02.29.2012 , 06:18 PM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by Abiza View Post
On another note, when did the self-proclaimed "casuals" become so damn defensive and sensitive?
When they got a game to themselves where 3 months in, they still haven't leveled a toon. I think it's a point of pride that they're paying a monthly fee for a game they don't play. That's why they're pretty unconcerned and defensive about all many and varied game issues...they'll never see them anyway.

Only in SWTOR is the stock answer to virtually any concern "you obviously don't belong here, this isn't your type of game, so you should leave". I think "casuals" who spend a year leveling a toon, and are then perfectly content to roll another one are just about the only type of "gamers" (using the term loosely) that haven't been thrown under the bus by SWTOR.

Pretty sure that's why they said they were planning on this game still being around in 2025...last of these guys ought to be finishing up the story line about then.

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Eddizel
02.29.2012 , 06:23 PM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by Pekish View Post
The problem is not the difficulty is the TIME you think that some people cannot achieve some goal because it's difficult?

Don’t kid yourself a monkey can be successful in an MMO...

It’s only some people doesn’t have time to reach a quantity of hours (that is not for everybody the exact same, obviously, but in the same area) that allow you to be successful

Let’s say to get to do "hard mode" stuff u need to have 400-600 hours under ur butt (maybe less it's just a figure)

so some people will never see that content not because they are not good enough but just because they don’t put enough hours in the game

to solve the problem and having everybody reach 99% of the content and at the same time keeping it challenging and make the community move together creating a successful social interaction u have to limit the disparity in HOURS

You need to cap the weekly hours of game play in that way you will have an healthy community that progress not exactly at the same speed but at a very similar speed

TIME IS THE DIFFERENT IN AN MMO like MONEY is the difference in real life
to make the MMO an utopia you have to do the same as you would do to make an utopia in REAL LIFE

real life > everybody same or very similar money
mmorpg > everybody same or very similar time

all the rest will come short here or there is like to pull a cover that is too small u can cover here but you will come short there.
Wrong, I have already pointed out multiple times, my guild did everything in the game playing on a very casual schedule of 9 hours a week. And we barely even played that because nothing slowed us down, Soa 16 man nightmare took less then 10 attempts.........give me a break.

You don't need massive amounts of free time, you just have to not suck.

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Eddizel
02.29.2012 , 06:31 PM | #449
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsaritsin View Post
This game lacks epeen

Good,

Close the door on your way out, thx



/Wave
Normally I would just ignore nonsense garbage unintelligent troll responses like this, but I'll bite.

Why do you want your game to have less players? Why do you care if they offer challenging content or not?

Are you intimidated by me? Does my very existence in the game somehow threaten or bother you?

Does asking for challenging raid content and a competitve pvp environment impact the way you want to play the game? Maybe you like leveling toons, watching the story, doing quests, playing casual warzones, doing casual normal mode operation, pugging easier content, whatever. Whatever it is you enjoy, what we are asking for has ZERO effect on how you play the game.

Either way, yes, I will be closing the door on my way out.

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Skylarke
02.29.2012 , 06:49 PM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by Eddizel View Post
Normally I would just ignore nonsense garbage unintelligent troll responses like this, but I'll bite.

Why do you want your game to have less players? Why do you care if they offer challenging content or not?

Are you intimidated by me? Does my very existence in the game somehow threaten or bother you?

Does asking for challenging raid content and a competitve pvp environment impact the way you want to play the game? Maybe you like leveling toons, watching the story, doing quests, playing casual warzones, doing casual normal mode operation, pugging easier content, whatever. Whatever it is you enjoy, what we are asking for has ZERO effect on how you play the game.

Either way, yes, I will be closing the door on my way out.
Challenging content is good. The more of it, the better.

However, there are players like me who actually enjoy completing it because of the sense of achievement that comes from doing so with my friends/guildmates... and not... about completing it to get "phat lewt" and using it to act superior to everyone else (epeen).

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