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WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

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WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

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Seravie
02.29.2012 , 03:48 PM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebaron View Post
That is a good point I had not though of earlier. The dungeons in WoW were tied to the land and story while leveling. Almost every one as a matter of fact. None of the flashpoints have anything to do with the leveling planets, but the heroics do.

It did make deadmines and wailing carverns more interesting.
Lol if you payed attention the flashpoints do tie into the story take the essles(sp) for example, you need to board the ship so you can get to coruscant.. and if you were paying attention to the dialogue in the intro(quest giver) the leader usually tells you why you need to do this, it's more connected to the greater conflict in the galaxy. And I guess you havent done false emperor or battle for ilum.
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ShaftyMcShaft
02.29.2012 , 03:49 PM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by Icebaron View Post
That is a good point I had not though of earlier. The dungeons in WoW were tied to the land and story while leveling. Almost every one as a matter of fact. None of the flashpoints have anything to do with the leveling planets, but the heroics do.

It did make deadmines and wailing carverns more interesting.
And frequently they led up to the raids, too. Like you go through the searing gorge quests and learn about the dark iron dwarves, which leads you to BRD, where you find the ambassadors from the plane of fire, which lead you to Molten Core. Or Burning Steppes -> LBRS -> UBRS -> BWL.

On the other had I have no idea why we're going to Karraga's Palace.

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souloferdrick
02.29.2012 , 03:50 PM | #383
If we had what Snoodmaster refers to there might have been an extra level of appreciation to the voice over work but as he points out, there isn't, so it comes off as contrived nonsense.

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Shadit
02.29.2012 , 03:54 PM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by AJediKnight View Post
This.

The game sucks, folks. The arguments against it are both profound and coherent. Those in support of it as a rule fall into one of two categories: A) it is new, give it time! or B) IT'SSTARWARSSOIT'SSOGOODOMGAWDZ.

TOR feels like it is held together with spit and bailing wire. The engine is bad, the game world is dead, and the few remaining denizens cluster together in the fleet like it's some concrete bunker holding back the armageddon beyond.

I hate to say this, but I'm going back to WoW. I didn't think I'd ever do that, but the simple fact of that matter is that, even after 7 years, that's a better game than this is.

You're on a roll tonight. Bravo good sir ( leave the "i hate to say this", you have spewed nothing but moronic ideas and 12 yo logic in your last 10-20 posts , if 60$ are the reason you're staying on the forum of a game you obviously despise then i guess you have bigger problems)

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Icebaron
02.29.2012 , 03:55 PM | #385
Quote: Originally Posted by Seravie View Post
Lol if you payed attention the flashpoints do tie into the story take the essles(sp) for example, you need to board the ship so you can get to coruscant.. and if you were paying attention to the dialogue in the intro(quest giver) the leader usually tells you why you need to do this, it's more connected to the greater conflict in the galaxy. And I guess you havent done false emperor or battle for ilum.
That is one quest in one spot that had nothing to do with anything that happened on Tython or that happens on Corusant. So it ties to the greater galaxy somehow, but how?

Is the ambassador you saved somewhere in the game later? The Captain? The ship ever mentioned again?

WoW did it better. Story, Biowares specialitiy and WoW did it better. They just didn't force you to listen through the story if you didn't want to.

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Morthis
02.29.2012 , 03:55 PM | #386
Quote: Originally Posted by Lostkitty View Post
I actually have more to do in this game at end game then WOW.... I currently sit around towns in WoW bored as hell because there's nothing to do, I've maxed every prof atleast once, Raids are easy as hell and Blizzard is hell bent on making them even easier with their % nerfs
People like you crack me up, I guarantee you that you haven't killed all heroics, and if you actually reply to this it will be with some bs excuse as to why you haven't tried them.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
Also I disagree with the customer service. They do talk to you in SW:TOR. Problem is most people place tickets that the CSR can't help with. I don't need them wasting their time trying to cuddle me because I had a boo boo. If I report a bug I do NOT need them responding to me unless they want more detail surrounding it which I already do by e-mailing them with screenshots of the event to supplement my ticket.
You mean boo boo's like items despawning because master loot is bugged beyond belief? Yeah I appreciate the "Get lost we don't care about bugs screwing you" mail, wouldn't want them to bother talking to me about the issue or anything.

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ShaftyMcShaft
02.29.2012 , 03:56 PM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by Seravie View Post
Lol if you payed attention the flashpoints do tie into the story take the essles(sp) for example, you need to board the ship so you can get to coruscant.. and if you were paying attention to the dialogue in the intro(quest giver) the leader usually tells you why you need to do this, it's more connected to the greater conflict in the galaxy.
Yeah but it doesn't tie in to any other part of the story. When I think of trying to tell a story through a game I think of it having a beginning, a middle, and an end, told through a chain of quests. So you start small, investigating some problem in the area, which uncovers a bigger plot or threat, and you follow the trail completing other quests, learning more, until eventually you discover the Terrible Secret and you have to go into the enemy's lair to defeat the source of the problem.

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And I guess you havent done false emperor or battle for ilum.
These are like the only FPs in SWTOR where the story starts outside the instance. Every other FP is a self-contained story unrelated to the rest of the planet storylines. A droid in fleet says "hey go board this shuttle" and you do, and then the story starts and ends in the FP.

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ShaftyMcShaft
02.29.2012 , 04:03 PM | #388
Quote: Originally Posted by AJediKnight View Post
This.

The game sucks, folks. The arguments against it are both profound and coherent. Those in support of it as a rule fall into one of two categories: A) it is new, give it time! or B) IT'SSTARWARSSOIT'SSOGOODOMGAWDZ.
And I don't see how a real Star Wars fan can be happy with their treatment of the material.

Lightsabers don't make people bleed.
Jedi don't get bonus points for finding an extra 40 people to slaughter.
The Force doesn't heal people.
Besides Force ghosts, you can't come back from the dead in Star Wars.

The game mechanics don't feel like Star Wars, and the dead world sure doesn't immerse you, either. Pretty sure in the movies Coruscant is teeming with people. In the game, it's a ghost town.

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I hate to say this, but I'm going back to WoW. I didn't think I'd ever do that, but the simple fact of that matter is that, even after 7 years, that's a better game than this is.
Give LoTRO a shot, first. It kind of plays like WoW, but the combat is more complex, the graphics are better, and the world feels very alive. If you like Lord of the Rings and you like MMOs, Turbine did a really good job. And you can try it for free, since it's free to play until you start buying extra content and services.

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Crossbwnz
02.29.2012 , 04:04 PM | #389
Quote: Originally Posted by ellrochell View Post
So SWTOR brought me to mmo's it was my first. After a month and a half I had two level 50's and was stumped with what to do next. I was frustrated at lack of content at the end of the game and lack of pvp at times. So I decided to try World of Warcraft as everyone bangs on about how good it is or was or whatever. I logged on for the first time and made a hunter warewolf and began my questing, and could not believe how dull it was up to level 10. There's no voice overs and its an absolute guess where to go for questing. I'm not ************ at it because it is a 7 year old game but the fact that people are comparing these two games is really surprising me, if people just overlook there addiction they had to the game and actually compared the two, SWTOR wins hands down. So Bioware you will be seeing a lot more of me on your game
LOL LOOK AT MINI MAP FOR QUEST LOCATIONS. SWTOR DOES NOT WIN AGAINST WOW BECAUSE WOW HAS CREATED A TON OF INDUSTRY STANDARD FEATURES IN MMOS LIKE, XSERVER BGS(WZS), DUNGEON FINDER, REFINED ENGINE, REFINED CONTROLS, REFINED CLASSES,

REFINED GAME!

lol i won't go back to it because I have absolutely beat that horse dead but even I know whos the king of the hill and why. Also, BW employee.

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Seravie
02.29.2012 , 04:04 PM | #390
Quote: Originally Posted by ShaftyMcShaft View Post
Yeah but it doesn't tie in to any other part of the story. When I think of trying to tell a story through a game I think of it having a beginning, a middle, and an end, told through a chain of quests. So you start small, investigating some problem in the area, which uncovers a bigger plot or threat, and you follow the trail completing other quests, learning more, until eventually you discover the Terrible Secret and you have to go into the enemy's lair to defeat the source of the problem.



These are like the only FPs in SWTOR where the story starts outside the instance. Every other FP is a self-contained story unrelated to the rest of the planet storylines. A droid in fleet says "hey go board this shuttle" and you do, and then the story starts and ends in the FP.
So it's a story within a story, yet it ties into the lore, and galaxy's timeline...
1-10 coruscant treaty, war with the empire is far, 10-30 tension is mounting, it's in a cold war state. 30-40 war is inevitable haven't actually declared war. 40-50 war is declared and the whole galaxy is in conflict.
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