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JediElf
02.29.2012 , 12:50 PM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by Russkiier View Post

Hardcore for providing community services like Torhead, boss guides, etc

Casual for providing enough money for the developers to continue making/improving the game.

I hope Hardcore players stick with the game and I hope the devs provide some hard content and correspondingly awesome reward for the hardcore crowd. I beleive that this would give casual players something to strive for, like the Sunwell Armor that was mentioned.
Excuse me? I'm not here to fund 'your game'. I pay my subscription, to fund my game.

This is the kind of attitude that people don't want in this game. We are not little peons, supplying the big boy raiders with mats, and supplies. Those days are over.

What I strive for is my own personal goals, I don't need gear to fuel my gameing sessions, not in this game.

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Mynden
02.29.2012 , 12:52 PM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
Excuse me? I'm not here to fund 'your game'. I pay my subscription, to fund my game.

This is the kind of attitude that people don't want in this game. We are not little peons supplying the big boy raiders with mats and supplies. Those days are over.

What I strive for is my own personal goals, I don't need gear to fuel my gameing sessions, not in this game.
Have fun with your empty servers because no one cares to play the same stuff for months on end with no goals. Thats what "your game" is going to lead to. It's already happening in fact. There's a game already out there for your play style. It's called "Knights of the Old Republic".
Use the link for free stuff (including a server transfer)
http://www.swtor.com/r/DMvJV3

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Pekish
02.29.2012 , 12:53 PM | #363
I would love a mmo without thorcrap and all the "hardcore" spoilers

of course I can do without going there and check it but if everybody else do check them and i am the only stupid one that doesn't and when i ask in game instead of try to find solution togheter they get pissed off and send me to a link


hardcore are distroing everything that WAS fun in an MMO and not only they ruin all and complain complain complain complain complain complain

world of MMO would be much much healthier and much much more fun WITHOUT THOSE ***

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Uruare
02.29.2012 , 12:53 PM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by Mynden View Post
You can only look at the same art over and over for so long before you stop caring. Content is king. I don't care how pretty it is, if you devour it all too fast because it's too easy you won't care anymore. And that's what's happening in this game.
A fair point, but there's not just one type of content the term 'Content' can apply to, either.

Obviously, some folks want the kind they can just put on farm and rewind. Some hate doing the same thing twice. Some want challenge in a very specific way, whereas yet others don't want any challenge at all and, maybe entirely literally, want entertainment pretty much handed to them.


Trouble is, who's 'right'? In terms of game longevity, whatever serves the most people best is right...but what, exactly, would that be?

Maybe if we could get some ideas and constructive discussion going on, we might throw some idea-sparks out there for someone to maybe, possibly care about upstairs.

Otherwise, this thread's pretty much distilling into two general parties throwing dead cats at eachother over imaginary fences.

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Mynden
02.29.2012 , 12:54 PM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Pekish View Post
I would love a mmo without thorcrap and all the "hardcore" spoilers

of course I can do without going there and check it but if everybody else do check them and i am the only stupid one that doesn't and when i ask in game instead of try to find solution togheter they get pissed off and send me to a link


hardcore are distroing everything that WAS fun in an MMO and not only they ruin all and complain complain complain complain complain complain

world of MMO would be much much healthier and much much more fun WITHOUT THOSE ***
Bro, if you think these games are hardcore compared to the past I dont know what to tell you. It's not even close. It's not hardcore people wrecking mmo's. Wow is losing subs, swtor can't hold onto them etc and so on.
Use the link for free stuff (including a server transfer)
http://www.swtor.com/r/DMvJV3

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Mynden
02.29.2012 , 12:55 PM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
A fair point, but there's not just one type of content the term 'Content' can apply to, either.

Obviously, some folks want the kind they can just put on farm and rewind. Some hate doing the same thing twice. Some want challenge in a very specific way, whereas yet others don't want any challenge at all and, maybe entirely literally, want entertainment pretty much handed to them.


Trouble is, who's 'right'? In terms of game longevity, whatever serves the most people best is right...but what, exactly, would that be?

Maybe if we could get some ideas and constructive discussion going on, we might throw some idea-sparks out there for someone to maybe, possibly care about upstairs.

Otherwise, this thread's pretty much distilling into two general parties throwing dead cats at eachother over imaginary fences.
I sort of agree, but I don't. If the majority want it handed to them, and a big chunk unsub once they are done....was that really the right call?
Use the link for free stuff (including a server transfer)
http://www.swtor.com/r/DMvJV3

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OldBenSmokin
02.29.2012 , 12:56 PM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by Pekish View Post
I would love a mmo without thorcrap and all the "hardcore" spoilers

of course I can do without going there and check it but if everybody else do check them and i am the only stupid one that doesn't and when i ask in game instead of try to find solution togheter they get pissed off and send me to a link


hardcore are distroing everything that WAS fun in an MMO and not only they ruin all and complain complain complain complain complain complain

world of MMO would be much much healthier and much much more fun WITHOUT THOSE ***
Wrong Wrong Wrong on all accounts.

And I'm not one to harp on spelling and whatnot, but really?

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JediElf
02.29.2012 , 12:56 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by Mynden View Post
Have fun with your empty servers because no one cares to play the same stuff for months on end with no goals. Thats what "your game" is going to lead to. It's already happening in fact.
I don't think so. This game is far from dead, and I'd rather have a less full server full of people that appreciate the game, than a server full of jerks who just wave ePeens around all day.

The days of 'casuals' and average players being in servitude to raiders is over.

We don't need you guys, not here, not this time.

I actually enjoy the /1 general chat for once. We can have real discussions about a variety of topics and lore, we help one another with flashpoints and heroics. It's finally good to see some real human behavior in an MMO, free from the chest thumping gear rage that most MMO chat channels produce.

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Fedarsond
02.29.2012 , 12:58 PM | #369
I'm really happy with the changes they are making first off i'm a pvper and pver i like how easy the raids are i can play a few hours one night with a bunch of random people and clear hard modes easy. Then on top of that on the other days i only get to play a few hours i can get the best pvp gear in the game as well with the new bag changes i found it extremely easy to gear my main and my alt in full champ. And now with the metal change coming next patch ill be able to get battle master in no time on both of my character. I think more games need to be like swtor i don't get much time to play this game maybe like 10 hours a week but i can still manage to be on par with the people that play 40+ hours thanks to bioware.

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lineschmidt
02.29.2012 , 12:59 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by Pekish View Post
I would love a mmo without thorcrap and all the "hardcore" spoilers

of course I can do without going there and check it but if everybody else do check them and i am the only stupid one that doesn't and when i ask in game instead of try to find solution togheter they get pissed off and send me to a link


hardcore are distroing everything that WAS fun in an MMO and not only they ruin all and complain complain complain complain complain complain

world of MMO would be much much healthier and much much more fun WITHOUT THOSE ***
QFT

Would be a mmo dream come true