Battlemaster achievement no longer worth anythihng

4. making it an even paying field so people can pvp... rather then worry about grinding and getting roflstomped by people with better gear.


I rather pvp against people with equal gear then have to worry about a few things.

1. new 50's wont lvl to 50 simply because they are going to get their s*** pushed in when they hit the 50 bracket
2. not a gear base game but rather a pvp/skill game.
3. people quitting pvp all together cause getting stomped to the ground.

i have 3 lvl 50's and can see both sides of the fence on this. my operative in BM gear does well in pvp. but once i lvl'd my merc and my sorc to 50 and seen first hand how uneven pvp is vs. good gear players i can also see how so many folks would wanna quit playing or pvp'ing all together.

Call it lazyness or whatever, but i still rather see those people Qeue up.


Ps. Serious question though.. Why are people so upset that others will be BM also?

The only issue I have with this that seems to keep coming up is "yay we're closing the gear disparity." Didn't it occur to anyone that not everyone exploited their way to Battlemaster? I'm a rank 57 Sage dps and I am so close to BM just by queuing for WZs and doing the dailies. I think people like me, or who have already hit BM, are just a little slighted because it seems like we put "the work in" and now people will be doing it with much less effort.

I don't care one way or the other, but to call this a "disparity" in gear is a misnomer. There is a gap because we CREATED the gap by pvp'ing and putting our time in. A LOT. We, in essence, earned the gap. (Whether you think it's a grind or not) The gap that everyone on this thread seems to so desperately want to close.

lolwut?

BW let people kill trade thats when BM became meaning less. This just let's people.who didn't want to.kill trade get BM easy

So let's go back to where I said "not everyone kill traded" and now try to see it from my perspective. (50 Sage Valor 57)

I worked REALLY HARD doing it the right way to earn the gear/titles/etc but because some people cheated and made the title useless, you want to make a useless title easily available to others who didn't cheat OR work for it? Cool.

That makes total sense in the logical abyss that is the forums.

folks with gear advantage will eventually quit because of the lack of challenge.
Folks with crap gear will quit because of the disadvantage.

no game should ever have a "GEAR" gap IMO, Its bad for business! regardless if you think you earned it or not.

sorry to disagree.

Translation ::: WHAAAAAAA I'm losing my gear advantage!!! Now I'll have to play on an even basis with everyone else.... even though they still have to grind it out!


Seriously, you carebear gear progression types need to stick to PvE. Thats what this gear stuff is you know, PvE.

Ok, I agree with this to an extent, because when I was coming up in rank, I got my *** handed to me so hard that my boyfriend had to convince me not to quit. (Try something like 10 losses inside 2 hours back to back for days) I felt the same way EVERY fresh 50 feels, like a senior graduating highschool from the top of the tier only to become freshmeat freshmen when they start to play with the big boys in college.

That's the name of the game, otherwise, what's the point in working for the gear?

In short, I got over it, continued to PVP, continued to research my spec/mods/stats, learned a lot, and eventually, started handing people their asses back. And yes, ticking for 1000k on a fresh fifty does have its moments of satisfaction/retritubtion.

But wanting to quit and quitting are two different things and personally, I'd rather NOT queue with a bunch of people who'd have otherwise given up if everything in the game wasn't handed to them in a nice neat package.

but that's the fun part, there won't BE a lack of challenge, there are plenty of other BMs to fight once you get your gear, everyone is still working their way up, right? It's not like you hit BM and everyone else stops....

I'll be the first to say, my opinions are just that, opinions. And since this is my first MMO, I have NO experience other than this to draw from. So please help a newbie understand, if there's no gear to work for, what gives two equally skilled players a tactical advantage?

In other words, without gear, how is everything rewarded/recognized/earned?

It's a game, you didn't "work" for anything. What are you, 15 years old living at home?? Worked "REALLY HARD". cmon dude

You should WANT more people to participate in PvP..... heck I'm already seeing the same people again and again on the other side, don't you want more and different competition?? Encouraging more people to PvP by not making it such a slaughterfest going up against better geared people is a GOOD thing.

If you are any GOOD, you'll still do fine, because you've probably played alot more matches than the noobs. Skill and experience should replace gear gap advantage.

This also encourages REPLAYABILITY..... I might quit altogether if I got bored of my Sage.... but might decide to regrind on a different character if the grind isn't too bad.

Game after game, I get sick of you PvE gear progression carebears thinking your hot stuff because you race to get the gear advantage, and then wait at the top of the cliff waiting to stomp on the fingers of any trying to get up there with you.

Hey, I'm really happy for you, I'm sure all those sleepless nights playing, wizzing in a gatorade bottle, and choking down hot pockets to work "really hard" to be battlemaster first was such a rush!!

Now, man up and ask for some equal competition. Don't base your selfworth on a game

^^ This.