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Performance issues linked to BW's Engine or Customers "Low end Pcs"

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Performance issues linked to BW's Engine or Customers "Low end Pcs"

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Nippon
02.29.2012 , 05:18 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Afflictionz View Post
All im asking for is PROOF that you people saying "oh well i dont have any performance issues, get better hardware" I want you to go to Ilum and make a video of a 20v20 fight and make sure you have ur FPS showing, I guarantee NOT one person can run over 60 FPS, NOT one. This engine that BW is running DOES need work, stop blaming performance issues on there hardware.

I only made this thread because someone made a post about how BWs engine needs work, and everyone flamed the guy saying "they have no problems and the OP needs to fix his hardware


Again I want to see a reply with a 10v10 or more Ilum battle with 60+ FPS...... Prove us wrong.
Went to Ilum ONCE, was in a 20v20 fight....Had 55-60 fps constant....My rig is awesome...

Will I do it again...No.

PVP sucks full stop in SWTOR, and Most MMO's IMHO.

So as an answer to your OP.

I couldn't care less, the game runs fine for what I do.
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mufutiz
02.29.2012 , 05:26 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Nippon View Post
Went to Ilum ONCE, was in a 20v20 fight....Had 55-60 fps constant....My rig is awesome...
Doubtful to say the least. Your rig is pretty average as well, I am sure. (a wild guess maybe, but in my experience their physical endowment is not the only thing men tend to severely overestimate)

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Will I do it again...No.
even if you wanted to - you probably could not.

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PVP sucks full stop in SWTOR, and Most MMO's IMHO.
That's your opinion, all right. There is probably an explanation for how it was formed though (hint: in most cases there is indeed some sucking involved but it's usually not the pvp system itself)


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I couldn't care less, the game runs fine for what I do.
and yet you not only read the thread but respond to it? I don't know about you but from a distance, yes it looks like you might actually care less

I swear, these forums never cease to amaze. I thought I had the principle behind general disinterest and indifference figured out but I learned a lot here, a lot!!

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Aepervius
02.29.2012 , 05:26 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Nippon View Post
Went to Ilum ONCE, was in a 20v20 fight....Had 55-60 fps constant....My rig is awesome...

Will I do it again...No.

PVP sucks full stop in SWTOR, and Most MMO's IMHO.

So as an answer to your OP.

I couldn't care less, the game runs fine for what I do.
Well apparently you could care less : by not responding to thread at all. So your "I couldn't care less" is wrong.

Secondly "I got 60 fps" without any video showing it off, seriously ? I wish when I did QM research i could have offered that to my peer as evidence...
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Invictos
02.29.2012 , 08:12 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Aelexx View Post
Would love to see proof of this aswell. I constantly see people claim they don't have any performance issues. I guess it depends on what standards you have, personally I feel it gets choppy and less enjoyable when it gets down to 20-30. I'm used to 60+ from other games.

I know nobody needs to proove anything, they aren't the ones with the burden of proof but just to end it once and for all, would be intresting to see if they can back up their claims or if they are just defending this game for whatever reasons.

I don't think anyone can though because it's an engine problem like many have said already.
It's not about burden of proof, IMO. The issue is that SWTOR's performance problems are largely situational; if someone never goes to PvP or doesn't monitor his FPS in general, he might dismiss any perceived hitches as unimportant. What constitutes "good enough" performance is, after all, subjective.

There are currently a lot of people on the forums who post glowing (and unsolicited) testimonials about their rig's performance in various complaint threads, but in weeks of combing the forums for potential solutions I have literally never seen a video or even a screen shot showing high FPS in any of the game's notorious trouble spots.

So in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I'm forced at this point to assume that those people are experiencing the same problem(s), but they either don't realize it or don't care. They obviously don't have to prove to me or to anyone else that they get great performance out of the game, but you'd think by this point that someone would have posted something by way of proof, if only in the spirit of furthering our understanding of the problem.

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FalcoLombardi
02.29.2012 , 08:13 AM | #96
Just gonna say the difference between 30ish-35+ and 60 isn't much
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FalcoLombardi
02.29.2012 , 08:15 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by mufutiz View Post
what proof are you waiting for?
the game engine and coding sucks.
that's all there is no know and it can be proven by starting up the game and playing it...

try repeatedly spamming the keybind for any random ui element like inventory, character panel, codex, map, etc. Watch your fps and keep telling yourself "Must be my computer"

everyone claiming otherwise is a) ignorant (enjoy your totally smooth Ilum gameplay at 20 fps, bro), b) trolling, c) crazy and eco-unfriendly enough to be running quad-gpu setups that don't experience much of a slow down
What's crazy about using a quad-gpu setup that doesn't experience much of a slow down? And who cares if it's "eco-unfriendly"?
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Vulgarr
02.29.2012 , 08:19 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Koalachan View Post
I can't post this "proof." Not because my computer can not handle it, but because there is no such think as 20v20 battles on Ilum. I want you to post proof that such a thing exists.
yes there are.

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Vulgarr
02.29.2012 , 08:24 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Inarai View Post
And, now we have yet another person who mistakenly believes that system-involved issues can only be a matter of specs.
well i dont know about that, but i get the same framerates as that video on a single 580.

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Vulgarr
02.29.2012 , 08:26 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Afflictionz View Post
Lol go get your jollys off on a text book bro.
the funny thing is i have textbooks that get better FPS than ilum during peak times.