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500 valor for the first 4 medals...bad idea!

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500 valor for the first 4 medals...bad idea!

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Zarovich
02.29.2012 , 12:06 AM | #41
The quickest way to gain valor under the new system will most likely to be to allow one team to win right away after getting 4 medals so the match will end quickly and so the next match can begin.

With how it is right now in an hour we can usually only do 4 WZ matches. But under the new system, if one team allows the other side a quick win it may be possible to get 10 matches in an hour. At 2000 valor per match for the losing side thats 20,000 valor per hour. It sounds like its far more beneficial to work out in general chat before the match starts on who should win so quicker the matches will go for valor farming for both sides.

It seems like Bioware wants everyone to be valor rank 100 by the time GW2 hits the shelves so we can have closer on SWTOR and move on.

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Revanmug
02.29.2012 , 12:07 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by BoredOfMMOS View Post
the problem is 4 metals then done So it promotes not trying after 4 metals.

clearly not everyone is going to do this but honestly people will not try as hard because the only extra they will received is for winning yes but not for the metals they worked hard for
But... why would that person be there for? Get easy gear and... stop? There is nothing else to do. There isn't some special magical thing that unlock later on so why do that? The person isn't even playing at that point so I can't see why he would be there. Time to move somewhere else?

If someone does it well, good for him but there is nothing you can do to change his mind. He clearly isn't interest in pvp.

And lol at your effort = more medal... People where just farming these. hint : huttball acid pit... It is even better while not in combat!


It sounds like you are more trying to find something to pick on more than anything else.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Zarovich View Post
The quickest way to gain valor under the new system will most likely to be to allow one team to win right away after getting 4 medals so the match will end quickly and so the next match can begin.

With how it is right now in an hour we can usually only do 4 WZ matches. But under the new system, if one team allows the other side a quick win it may be possible to get 10 matches in an hour. At 2000 valor per match for the losing side thats 20,000 valor per hour. It sounds like its far more beneficial to work out in general chat before the match starts on who should win so quicker the matches will go for valor farming for both sides.

It seems like Bioware wants everyone to be valor rank 100 by the time GW2 hits the shelves so we can have closer on SWTOR and move on.
But why?! FFS, why the hell would you do that? Can't you realise there is nothing to gain from this? Is your only pleasure seeing a bigger number in your stat sheet?! I'm sorry but GW2 will not be kind with you for that. If you can't even play for a real victory here, I dare not even watch you try some real pvp up there.

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Soultyr
02.29.2012 , 12:09 AM | #43
I pvp because I enjoy it not because I am farming medals. The new system would allow more competition and if you want to go afk great, I would take the win.
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FarizAA
02.29.2012 , 12:36 AM | #44
More valor for winning, less for loosing. Now difference is not that much.
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FarizAA
02.29.2012 , 12:38 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Soultyr View Post
I pvp because I enjoy it not because I am farming medals. The new system would allow more competition and if you want to go afk great, I would take the win.
They add mechanics in 1.2 to ban afk-ers by voting. Those banned will get 0 valor.
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Thaed
02.29.2012 , 12:39 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by dejavy View Post
As far as i understood the coming patch description:

"Medals are now worth 500 Valor and 10 Commendations. Players only earn Valor and Commendations for the first 4 medals earned each match."

So, we get 4 medals: guard, taunt, killing blow, 10 kills and later can afk till the end of the match because there's no reason to die somewhere else if we ALL get the same amount of valor.

Did i understand correct your idea? If so, it's just BAD idea my dear BW.

Every match with my premade i do about 8-11 medals as vanguard assault. I don't want to get the same valor amount doing NOTHING with those who did their best at the field.

The better variant would be 200 valor and 5 Commendations each medal. For 10 medals i'd get the same 2000k bonus valor but must work for this. The first 4 medals are too easy to get. The reward must be appropriate.

Don't feed the crying hamsters!

We need challenge!
We don't need easy Valor farm!
We don't need free BM and other titles!

"WE WANT TO WORK HARD TO BE UNIQUE!" - Think about the concept.
I highlighted the important part. Medals are ridiculously easy to achieve for your class. Not so for other classes. Healers, as I hear it, struggle to get 6.

This fix may not be ideal, but at least it means every class has access to the same amount of medals. The only other way to balance things would be for Bioware to make every single medal equally challenging to achieve for each AC.
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XearoBadlag
02.29.2012 , 12:45 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by dejavy View Post
For 10 medals i'd get the same 2000k bonus valor but must work for this.
I'm not sure if you know this, but 2000k valor would be 2,000,000 valor. Or valor at the temperature of 2000 degrees kelvin if you had used a capital K.

2000 = 2k
2000000 = 2000k
2000K = 3140.33^o F


... just saying ...

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Lexster
02.29.2012 , 12:50 AM | #48
Who cares how many comms/valor people get now due to increased medal rewards? In less than a month it is highly likely there will be ranked matches anyways. Honestly, the pvp in this game went so bad so quickly that I hope the next expansion or big update after 1.2 begins a whole new system.

So what if you got your champ/bm gear already. Its pvp grind, given enough time even the worst players will have it.

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AetherMcLoud
02.29.2012 , 01:01 AM | #49
Love this change. Now people will actually try to win the game instead of farming.
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mufutiz
02.29.2012 , 01:17 AM | #50
very good change , imo.

it's not feasible to make every class equally able to obtain the same amount of medals so this is a good, needed change. Finally people will try to play for objectives instead of just mindlessly zerging and going through their checklist of medals the whole match.

looking forward to it. VERY good idea.