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1.1.5 Just got Updated.

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drduncan
02.28.2012 , 11:21 PM | #411
I am one of those people who rarely post on the forums. As a republic player, these changes will finally even the playing field and encourage more and more people to play whatever class or faction they enjoy and be able to be competitive with a little skill and hard work.

Bravo Bioware!

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BCBull
02.28.2012 , 11:30 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I have no problem w/ this, but I doubt it would be fun for many thousands of players who enjoy the progression feel of obtaining the gear to compete w/ the highest tier of PvPers.

I personally enjoy knowing that there is a ceiling on the gear. When you feel like no matter how well you play, you are never going to be able to compete with other players simply because they started playing the game before you, it's discouraging.

When you know that if you play long enough and well enough, you will obtain the same gear as the best players and be able to fight them on equal ground, then grinding said gear is not so bad.

I said it before: when I lose, I like to know it was because I was outplayed and not outgeared.
Here is the problem. When 1.1.5. hits, you complete the warzone and double the valor we are getting now...

Just jump around on a node and get a 2.5k shot. pvp should mean more than this...
Quote: Originally Posted by Greg Zoeller
Fixing requires technology that we currently do not have.

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RenegadePlayer
02.28.2012 , 11:39 PM | #413
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I'm going to be 100% honest

Everytime I look at a BM guy I think to myself did he earn that by first leveling up his character thru pve and taking many hours to learn his class, do the missions, build up his gear or did he simply fast level thru pvp. If the answer is you power leveled pvp, then I don't care a single bit about your bm title. If you power leveled and farmed kills and grinded up on weaker inexperienced players you didn't earn your title. You can scream and complain all you want, but you didn't put nearly as much time into your character as pve players did. You need to face players of equal skill for you to earn that gear, if you outclassed another player and you knew it you sure didn't earn your next level.

I'm sure there are those who deserve the gear and title, but I bet a big majority don't deserve it. Every single time I see a BM geared guy I wonder if he truly earned it or if he just leveled by killing weaker opponents when they came for their dailies or encountered them in warzones. The game is what two months old and I've seen alot of those bm guys. Its not only a select few. I even heard they had to change the bags, because people were getting gear too easily so what does that tell you.

I'm all for these changes, it will put players on an equal level.
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Warkyd
02.28.2012 , 11:40 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by drduncan View Post
I am one of those people who rarely post on the forums. As a republic player, these changes will finally even the playing field and encourage more and more people to play whatever class or faction they enjoy and be able to be competitive with a little skill and hard work.

Bravo Bioware!
LOL you couldnt be more wrong.
Making it faster/easier to get gear is going to encourage FOTM spikes every time they rebalance.

Why stop at DoTs? Lets just make it so AoE abilities dont knock people off turrets and doors. You guys cool with that? We can make it a race to see which team has the fastest clickers and most aoe stuns. These changes are garbage.

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nschlan
02.28.2012 , 11:41 PM | #415
Quote: Originally Posted by RenegadePlayer View Post
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I'm going to be 100% honest

Everytime I look at a BM guy I think to myself did he earn that by first leveling up his character thru pve and taking many hours to learn his class, do the missions, build up his gear or did he simply fast level thru pvp. If the answer is you power leveled pvp, then I don't care a single bit about your bm title. If you power leveled and farmed kills and grinded up on weaker inexperienced players you didn't earn your title. You can scream and complain all you want, but you didn't put nearly as much time into your character as pve players did. You need to face players of equal skill for you to earn that gear, if you outclassed another player and you knew it you sure didn't earn your next level.

I'm sure there are those who deserve the gear and title, but I bet a big majority don't deserve it. Every single time I see a BM geared guy I wonder if he truly earned it or if he just leveled by killing weaker opponents when they came for their dailies or encountered them in warzones. The game is what two months old and I've seen alot of those bm guys. Its not only a select few. I even heard they had to change the bags, because people were getting gear too easily so what does that tell you.
Um, what? PvP leveling takes MUCH longer than PvE leveling. I think the carebear/misinformation section of the forums is that way ---------------------------->

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Fiendclub
02.28.2012 , 11:51 PM | #416
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
Rage.

What? standing around waiting for a dot to drop while the other team respawns??

Finally....got you killed. Lets plant the bomb....."dot"....damb try this again......"dot".....grrrr.......again............ .."dot"..............WTH?.....plant bomb......./saber to the face cause your back with 2 of ya friends.

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Cuddlezz
02.28.2012 , 11:55 PM | #417
this is great stuff, i think the 500 valor per medal system is going to cause problems and it seems highly impractical, maybe just incease the current amount of valor so people dont want to just trade kill on illum, also im personally upset with the stopping dots, but it doesnt matter either way really

personally i can just see tons of people getting their 4 medals and going afk, i think WZ valor needs to be buffed to comete with illum but this is a really bad idea

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Soultyr
02.28.2012 , 11:55 PM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
Rage.

I agree, that should have stayed how it was. Sages main weapon was dots, I guess might as well roll a commando.
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FarizAA
02.28.2012 , 11:58 PM | #419
Good decisions and you can see ideas behind every decision, which is great. I am sure in a year this game will be much better polished, and will have much more end game content than now.

Problem I see with those decisions is that now when people will get their BM and BM gear faster, they will face question "what to do in SWTOR" much earlier. I was part of two 100 strong PVP and PVE quilds lately, and see 6-10 people online normally in the evenings, sometimes even less. Just 2 months after release. Main problem is that people are bored as hell with a lack of end game content.

We can only hope 1.2 will change it, but I would not hold breath for it. When next hyped games are out SWTOR will lose big chunk of its population. I really hope it will survive it, I really do. I love SWTOR and see potential in this game.
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Ainianu
02.29.2012 , 12:19 AM | #420
In Ilum's current state it is very 'bad' the performance issues most see make it tedious to do the dailies, and whilst i dont see this on my server, others have issues on imbalanced factions.

Ilum in its current state does not work quite right.

The changes on Warzones imo are a quick fix until they make Ilum what it should be.