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What SWTOR will be


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Yozbick
02.28.2012 , 10:31 PM | #331
I hope the OP is right.

Unless Bioware fixes PVP and/or the endgame in the next three weeks, I personally think the game is going to experience a severe drop in population within a month or two, after which will come the inevitable server merges and what not. The game will then follow WAR, RIFT and other promising games down the MMO toilet.

I really do hope I'm wrong. If they just fix PVP/endgame, they can salvage things. But I'm not optimistic given what I've seen from 1.2 so far.
"Only an irredeemable fanboi can fail to acknowledge irony in the fact that the two worst aspects of 'Star Wars: TOR' are the part with the 'stars' and the part with the 'war.""

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Sunsoar
02.28.2012 , 10:33 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
In 4 years everyone will be going. "omg..dude..have you played TOR? That game has like..80 planets with tons of content, it's uber story man. If you want an immersive mmo experience play that. Anything else is just lame."
But this game is for ONE thing. STORY
You can have all the planets in the known universe. They're still big empty, wasted space questing zones. You ever notice how much empty dead space is on all "large zones bigger than most other MMOs continents"? I notice.

On top of that, you can have all the planets in the world, 80 of them whatever. It's going to be the same lame quests over and over. They have nothing new to offer every planet. Just a new location. They don't have dynamic quest areas, phasing, vehicle combat on the ground missions. Nothing. Grind this, grind this, covered up with voice acting. Nothing you do alters the actual physical game.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
But this game is for ONE thing. STORY
You can go ahead and be one of those people that are ok with paying monthly for one thing. I am not one of those people.



Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyDale View Post
Well I read first paragraph or so and like I said Sarfux, you defeat your own argument.

Just the fact you are having to look forward to the future so much to defend and justify the game so soon after release just goes to show how lacking this game is in it's current form.

Yeah...it may be great one day in the future. But who cares. It's not that one day in the future yet.

Most gamers are going to care about what the game is like while they are playing it. Not what it's in theory going to be like eventually in the future.

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This game desperately needs some sandbox elements. Repetitive grinding is not fun.

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Cordarn
02.28.2012 , 10:34 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by JeremyDale View Post
Well I read first paragraph or so and like I said Sarfux, you defeat your own argument.

Just the fact you are having to look forward to the future so much to defend and justify the game so soon after release just goes to show how lacking this game is in it's current form.

Yeah...it may be great one day in the future. But who cares. It's not that one day in the future yet.

Most gamers are going to care about what the game is like while they are playing it. Not what it's in theory going to be like eventually in the future.
And currently most trolls are in the future saying " this game is going to fail" Like one person said in this thread, "I can see it as its going to be a game with a store and potions." You just defeated yourself in that statement. Please don't continue doing it.
What do you mean they shot a torpedo into the core?!?

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CogitoErgo
02.28.2012 , 10:35 PM | #334
My prediction:

SWTOR is free to play within the year. It's doing as well as it is now because the only competition is WoW, a game exactly like WoW (Rift) and this game that's exactly like WoW (SWTOR).

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Cordarn
02.28.2012 , 10:37 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunsoar View Post
You can have all the planets in the known universe. They're still big empty, wasted space questing zones. You ever notice how much empty dead space is on all "large zones bigger than most other MMOs continents"? I notice.

On top of that, you can have all the planets in the world, 80 of them whatever. It's going to be the same lame quests over and over. They have nothing new to offer every planet. Just a new location. They don't have dynamic quest areas, phasing, vehicle combat on the ground missions. Nothing. Grind this, grind this, covered up with voice acting. Nothing you do alters the actual physical game.



You can go ahead and be one of those people that are ok with paying monthly for one thing. I am not one of those people.






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Seems most people are hard headed who can't hear anything. I hear speeder traffic, talking, and walking on coruscant. Don't know what your hearing.
What do you mean they shot a torpedo into the core?!?

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JeremyDale
02.28.2012 , 10:39 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Cordarn View Post
And currently most trolls are in the future saying " this game is going to fail" Like one person said in this thread, "I can see it as its going to be a game with a store and potions." You just defeated yourself in that statement. Please don't continue doing it.
Cordarn, you can't say I defeated myself by making a statement I didn't even make. That makes no sense.

I don't know what this game's going to be like in the future and have never claimed I do. It's irrelevant to me, as I"m not playing this game in the future - i'm playing it now, so that's what matters.

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VegaPhone
02.28.2012 , 11:12 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by S View Post
Star Wars: The Old Republic will... crawl, ...and just keep on going and chuggin along. This is their baby and they are proud of it. They are trying so hard to please mainly everyone for the majority of the game by making a baby endgame and a baby MMO.

This game will continue to grow and get better as time goes on. I hope you live long enough to see that day.

They are fixing lots of bugs, they are coming out with more buggy content, they will keep adding more fixes to the stuff we want. This is their plan.

They launched with the stuff they had because they want to keep away MMO players from playing thier game so they can just keep on adding the stuff for the few players little by little to keep people from not coming back so they can do what they want with the game.

I believe BioWare keeps the community at heart when releasing this content and just know they can't do everything right now to make sure they shrink they community to the right size. So hang in there, you will be the remaining few that they will make this game for.

The things that you guys want, whether it be sitting in chairs in an empty cantina, swimming alone in an MMO, day/night cycle which will never happen, weather becuase they want you to worship some idol (malgus statute)( to make it rain while in other games its free to have weather) and to start praying to malgus. They WILL come in time, but i recommend freezing yourself in nitrogen since the crystalization gurantees you wont be able to see if swtor was a success without the gurantee I cant honestly make. So its better to imagine improvement at this point than to see more dissapointment.

The heroengine is getting updates constantly and performance issues ARE being worked on! This is one of the smoothest mmos ever (Sorry malgus made me troll you here - kneel before Malgus!) and the running looks VERY good (bring me lotion and some tissue!). At this point I thought I was going to give you a reason to argue about the end to troll you- here you go. Argue about the Hero engine mostly, and not about swtor please. Enjoy the troll. So the environments and running feels natural when parts of the environment is disabled. My hopes and dreams will come true as long as something improves despite other parts fail.

Great game BioWare keep it up, I want to be one of the few playing your game
Fixed it for you.

However, the last paragraph did not need much to fix since that really was a troll paragraph.

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Kunra
02.28.2012 , 11:15 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
you highly underestimate what this game offers and people don't give games a chance these days. It's sad really
Umm, no.

Edit: PS, I would rather be playing SWG NGE(Pre-CU Vet) then this garbage/scam of a game.

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Sarfux
02.28.2012 , 11:15 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunsoar View Post
You can have all the planets in the known universe. They're still big empty, wasted space questing zones. You ever notice how much empty dead space is on all "large zones bigger than most other MMOs continents"? I notice.

On top of that, you can have all the planets in the world, 80 of them whatever. It's going to be the same lame quests over and over. They have nothing new to offer every planet. Just a new location. They don't have dynamic quest areas, phasing, vehicle combat on the ground missions. Nothing. Grind this, grind this, covered up with voice acting. Nothing you do alters the actual physical game.



You can go ahead and be one of those people that are ok with paying monthly for one thing. I am not one of those people.





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I am sorry the game isn't for you. I hope you enjoyed your time here while it lasted For me, it is the best for me. As these are my opinions, you have yours. Goodbye sir
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Sarfux
02.28.2012 , 11:21 PM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by CogitoErgo View Post
My prediction:

SWTOR is free to play within the year. It's doing as well as it is now because the only competition is WoW, a game exactly like WoW (Rift) and this game that's exactly like WoW (SWTOR).
It is not like wow at all. Yes, it is online and has buttons you push to kill enemies. F2P that's funny...don't even have anything for that sir, I'm going to remember your name. I think I remember some people going "my prediction: the game will be f2p come 2 months in." Still waiting every single person that is still on here and month that goes by without it dying or not going free to play and they made all their little predictions based on nothing...I message them and go "soo..about that prediction" and they just message me back going. "shutup..you'll see" lol.

So bring it on trolls. If you have that bad of a life where you have to go onto a forum of a gmae that you do not like or pay money to troll to try and feel better about yourself in your head. That is pretty unforgiven and an abomination to the human condition. But..I'm sorry you feel this way about this game.

Once again..if you do not feel like it has reached potential for YOU, the paying customer, then by all means leave. This is a free country and you can do what you want. But no need to bash the game on the games own forums...does it really make you feel THAT much better? Or are you trying to fool yourself it's making you better when in reality it isn't?
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be