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AKfourtyseven

02.28.2012 , 09:32 PM \| #381	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur If I spend a Saturday playing all day, I can easily do 40 warzones...and I have, as I did this past weekend. This is my only problem with what you have said. The "average" customer for this game, does not have all Saturday to play. The average customer does not have 4-5 hrs to grind WZs in the week. Your average hardcore player, or average student gamer without a fulltime job, wife/gf/husband/children ect will smash this new system open and be full BM ready for the war-hero set. Everyone else will make steady progress.

Varicite

02.28.2012 , 09:37 PM \| #382	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Locusani I average 9 medals a game when I pure dps or hybrid dps/heal. I average 4 medals when I'm in a pure heal spec. At all times I attempt to complete the objectives by whatever means are available to me. But sure, that's hurr durring. lol, my guild leader is going to ****** when she finds out that she can now get comparable rewards to other classes as a healer. Edit: Erm, she is going to have "an extremely pleasurable response".
Quote: Originally Posted by JayPres Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

Savish

02.28.2012 , 09:43 PM \| #383	Quote
True pvpers don't pvp for gear or rewards, so its pretty much safe to assume all the whiners don't pvp for the right reasons, if its so important for these kids to have their epeen stroked then they can always implement some kind of rating system for that, better gear however should never been the only reason to pvp.

BoredOfMMOS

02.28.2012 , 09:44 PM \| #384	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Savish True pvpers don't pvp for gear or rewards, so its pretty much safe to assume all the whiners don't pvp for the right reasons, if its so important for these kids to have their epeen stroked then they can always implement some kind of rating system for that, better gear however should never been the only reason to pvp. your so right /sarcasm the best players have no pvp gear because they don't aim to play the objective they AFK right thats your argument? Wrong a good player has about 10k objective and 10 medals at the end of a game. l2p
i will miss you Swtor But your not my mmo home.

AKfourtyseven

02.28.2012 , 09:48 PM \| #385	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Savish True pvpers don't pvp for gear or rewards, so its pretty much safe to assume all the whiners don't pvp for the right reasons... You have a point, however in this game to have real Pvp, an actual test of skill against a worthy opponent? You either need to both have gear, or both not have gear. That is the fundamental issue that forces people to seek rewards even if they didnt necessarily want them. I dont like the idea of PvP gear at all, but at least with these changes it means more people can get enough to actually have competitive and fun PvP. I also suspect that while getting to higher valour ranks will be much easier, the trade-off will be getting the associated gear will take slightly longer.

Locusani

02.28.2012 , 09:53 PM \| #386	Quote
Bored, you're leaping to an assumption that "true PVPer" and "good player has 10k objective and 10 medals" are in any way the same concept. A "true PVPer" is someone who fights players, rather than the environment, for the challenge of it. For the dynamic, ever-different experience found when two fallible creatures with differing skill sets meet and tear each other up a chunk at a time. A "true PVPer" is there for the adrenaline hit. They prioritise improving skill before improving gear. Hell, I'm still in champion gear and I've been shredding battlemasters since there've been battlemasters. It is perfectly possible for a "true PVPer" to have "10k objective and 10 medals" (on certain maps). The two are not mutually exclusive. However, I would suggest you start saying that to the healers in your warzones, at the start of all your warzones, and see how that goes down.
Ensuhkesh Anu - Sorceror - Lord Calypho

BoredOfMMOS

02.28.2012 , 09:57 PM \| #387	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Locusani Bored, you're leaping to an assumption that "true PVPer" and "good player has 10k objective and 10 medals" are in any way the same concept. A "true PVPer" is someone who fights players, rather than the environment, for the challenge of it. For the dynamic, ever-different experience found when two fallible creatures with differing skill sets meet and tear each other up a chunk at a time. A "true PVPer" is there for the adrenaline hit. They prioritise improving skill before improving gear. Hell, I'm still in champion gear and I've been shredding battlemasters since there've been battlemasters. It is perfectly possible for a "true PVPer" to have "10k objective and 10 medals" (on certain maps). The two are not mutually exclusive. However, I would suggest you start saying that to the healers in your warzones, at the start of all your warzones, and see how that goes down. This game is based on gear based PVP they cannot greatly improve skill without Gear. my best friend is currently a level 50 war hero merc healer she is able to efficiently manage 7 medals per game for heals objective and little effort on kills.
i will miss you Swtor But your not my mmo home.

AKfourtyseven

02.28.2012 , 10:02 PM \| #388	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Locusani A "true PVPer" is there for the adrenaline hit. They prioritise improving skill before improving gear. Hell, I'm still in champion gear and I've been shredding battlemasters since there've been battlemasters. Would you not agree that a "true Pvper" would also recognise rather quickly that a certain minimum of gear was required for their skill to even matter, to the extent that 'true PvP' cannot occur until certain gear requirements are met? A skilled Champ can roll a less skilled BM, but its rather implausible that a skilled no Expertise player could roll the same BM. For me, this is the root issue of many problems with our current PvP system, The changes they have pushed out however mean that you can more easily get to a level of gear where you no longer have to prioritise attaining X Y Z medals/comms/gear and your love for skill and challenge can become the focal point.

Amiodarone

02.28.2012 , 10:03 PM \| #389	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by dnomz Wow... I can't believe what I've just read. This is the nail in the coffin for me. Have they lost their gosh darn minds?! Ilum daily/weekly can be done by playing Warzones?! Do they realise this will KILL Ilum PvP COMPLETELY?! The ONLY reason people PvP at Ilum is BECAUSE of the daily/weekly, NOT because they enjoy the lagfest. And what's all that changes to Warzones?! 500 ********* Valor PER medal, up to a maximum of 4?! That's 2000 ********* free Valor EVERY round. I get only 500 right now after collecting 10(!) medals. I understand you want to stop the medal farming, but WHY SO MANY?! 2000 is WAAY too much. And 4 medals is too damn easy to get. Killing blow, 2k protect, 5k protect, 10k protect. Good job here is your free 2000 valor. I'm about to become War Hero Valor rank 70, the third on my server as Republic. That took a lot of time. With these changes everyone and his mom will be a War Hero within 2 weeks. Thanks for nothing Bioware. You just killed my ENTIRE lust for PvP. QQ Is about all I get out of that. You are not a true pvper that pvps for fun. Who cares if there is a million War Heros? Does that directly affect your game play at all? Nope just knocks you off your soap box.. Do us all a favor and cancel your sub now. I promise you we wont miss you.

Nangasaur

02.28.2012 , 10:04 PM \| #390	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BocaProwler Don't think that is correct. Currently you get 50 valor and 5 comms for every medal, so you got 45 extra comms, after this patch, from what i read, 40 is the max. I get 9-12 medals per game now, so I will probably lose some bonus comms each match, but the valor is crazy. I get 1100-1500 valor in a wz now, i am guaranteed 2000 extra for having at least 4 medals. It was correct. Sorry I didn't SS it for you...but, I certainly did get 89 comms. Had 2 votes at end of match, so it was 87 comms + 2 votes = 89 comms.
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