Dots no longer helpful in defense???????

Besides that, It is lazy coding that BioWare originally coded this interruption into the TakeDamage action on the player character.


So you agree that it can be fixed, but isn't being fixed? I don't see any reason it can't be re-coded and fixed properly. or did I miss something?

^^ This.

That isn't even the funny one. This: http://www.torhead.com/ability/99CSg...ndiary-grenade
Is the funny one. Even better: It is a 31 point talent.

Bioware is trolling gunslingers with this talent.

this is a good change

ive seen many a good attacks on side turrets on civil war fail simply because dots were applied while said player took speeder back and forth before being murdered over and over, our team could not cap as 2-4 of us had dots and could not cap, by time said 8 sec dot wears off.. they had already used speeder and back fighting next to turret. Defied all logic

if you have a good team and organisation you should not need to rely on a 8-10 sec dot (on top of an already 8 sec capture timer)..

also it helps towards all those boring 0-0 voidstar matches


how can this not be a positive change?

I am not trying to argue if it's one on one on Alderaan. I can easily kill the sorc, cleanse and cap. It's voidstar when you are trying to cap and all the AoE dot spammers need to do is run in, spam aoe dot, run out. Another sorc will run in, AoE dot, run out. 3rd sorc will run in, AoE dot, run out. See the pattern? With this, it is IMPOSSIBLE to plant the bomb.

Or, you can suggest just killing the 3 sorcs. If you do, you've never played against 3 bubbled sorc healers.

I can't see how people can say this fix is not a good thing. As I said, what about people who have no cleanse? Then what? Spam "cleanse cleanse cleanse cleanse" until a healer sees it and finds you, hoping that the spell is not in CD and will actually target you to cast it?

I fail to see how this changes that situation. Now they just run in, throw down aoe, run out.

You're basically arguing that you shouldn't be able to be stopped. If the player is present they will stop you, dot or not.

As you can read from my post I am criticising BioWare from allowing DoT's to prevent to begin with. Another poster earlier suggested that it was probably not intentional/well thought out. Then I provide a reason that I see from your point of argument would be a satisfactory solution in the form of a change of definition.

The people who think it's not a positive change are the ones that thought they were extremely skilled when they rez-zerged the opposing team and threw DoT's around.

Sorry to keep quoting you, I don't want to lose my place in this thread. From what you are saying, it seems like the game is coded with a trigger event of "Attacked" instead of "taking damage". This is not correct from what I see using my Scoundrel.

My DoT on my Scoundrel does not upfront damage, the samage applies like 3-4 seconds later.

If you were trying to cap the left turret in Civil War and I applied just my DoT, no one elses DoT, you will not be prevented from taking over the turret at first. You will be prevented when the DoT applies DAMAGE. I just tested this out in a WZ. All other DoTs except for my mirror class counterpart, cause damage up front.

So therefore, the game does not seem it is coded to a trigger event of "attacked", but it is coded to see a trigger of "taking damage". Try it out for yourself.

Can any other smuggler or the mirror class confirm this?

What it will do is make the sorc actually try to attack you. They cannot just cast AoE dot 2 times and KNOW you cannot cap and then hang back behind a pillar. They will need to actively be close to me to prevent me from capping. Since I am an Inf spec melee, I will shred that sorc if he does and actually gives me a chance to cap. This will actually help with people using teamwork instead of having a 1-button cap prevention method.

Regardless, BW is implementing it. I like it. If you don't, then I'm sorry it didn't go your way. It was cheesy, others do on this thread, and obviously BW thinks it's imbalanced enough to have it fixed.

I never posted about before they posted the change and it was only a minor issue for me since there is a chance for me to escape via Resilience. But other classes without a cleanse skill? Well too bad for them because they were SOL until now.