1.1.5 Just got Updated.

Lot to like, but a few things I'm not completely understanding/things I wanted to comment on:

A. When we receive credit for Ilum dailies and weeklies, are we talking about kill counts (kill 20 in a WZ = 20 in Ilum), or is it going to be something along the lines of participating in 1 WZ = 1 kill on Ilum?

B. To the people commenting that all healers can cleanse: DoTs in particular have different types: Tech, Physical, Mental, and Force. Non-force healers (I can confirm Commando, I cannot confirm Scoundrel) can heal Tech and Physical and Commandos at the least can cleanse Mental if we spec into it. If I'm not mistaken, Sages cannot heal Tech DoTs at all, but can cleanse Physical and Force (by default) and Mental (if spec'd).

C. The change the medals should be interesting. It's not as though you stop earning them after 4, they just don't matter in terms of valor/commendations. Really what they should do is hide the notifications of medals and remove the indicator showing how many medals you have until the end of the match. That should keep you involved in the match

D. Also, I'm happy to see that you can no longer use the Russian military's strategy in WWII to win Alderaan (just throw bodies at it until its ours).

They should make it where CC doesn't stop you from detonating a door.

So basically you want everyone to have battlemaster gear, regardless of their ability, contribution, or time spent in pvp.

It really does sound like you'd be better off with counterstrike. Gearing your character is a fairly significant and standard part of mmos.

Three things the changes will prevent:

• Players ignoring the objectives to run off somewhere so they can farm the 'one on one' medal
  
• Players taking minor secondary healer or guarding abilities to farm those medals, even though it detracts from their primary roles
  
• Healers being penalised for concentrating on healing instead of farming medals

The players who aren't currently on the even footing are those who suck anyway and will just get stomped when rated WZ's come out anyway so its still pointless. Ill just get to stomp them in equal gear and the crying will get even WORSE because they won't even be able to blame gear anymore. When they run out of reasons for why they suck and finally come to the realization that they suck they will get discouraged and quit. At least the current system strings the baddies along letting them think "well if i had that gear i'd be good too!"

No, it sounds like I'd be better off playing TOR, considering they're moving in that direction. Sounds like YOU would be better off in another game.

Gear is for PvE.

Ilum essentially missed the ball. OPvP should be something people do because they want to, it will always be prone to abuse and only enjoyable for some. Yes, open world PvP can be amazingly fun (especially in a FFA game) but making it so that Ilum was the best way to grind valor led to exactly the type of negative behaviors that became commonplace. I hope that when they implement more open world PvP they put a bit more fore-thought into the rewards and penalties (open world PvP is worthless without both) and perhaps some features to support guild/team play. Captured territories etc would be nice.

An open world zone to grind opponents in an RvR game (not even RvRvR)is dumb period. The idea that meaningless grinding of oppenents in a game that is practically guaranteed to be unbalanced should earn the greatest rate of return on valor is ridiculous.

In 1.2, BM is going to be like the new Centurion, so I'm assuming these Valor changes are leading into the ranked Warzone season, when getting to higher Valor levels actually will be much harder.

The gear we have now is probably going to be the bare minimum for pvp in 1.2.

A better solution would be to give healers more medals. I know healers got the shaft a bit in the medal department, and that did need a fix, but this massive flat rate gain for everyone isn't it.

Give healers a medal for 125k healed, 175k healed, 250k healed and 300 healed.

Problem solved, and the numbers are too high for say a conceal op like myself to get to.

If that is indeed the direction they've moving in, of just letting everyone have the same awesome elite gear regardless of contribution, ability, or time spent then yeah, you're right.

I'll probably cancel my sub... or stop pvping.

I have a nice rading guild so maybe I'll be able to get cool looking, unusual gear that way? I dunno.

If we're losing and it's a high chance we're going to lose, I can just sit around and do nothing after I've gotten my 4 medals.