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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 03:39 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Manski View Post
You have to EARN the right for a fair fight. A Boxer who is 1-0 doesn't get the opportunity to fight for the Heavy Weight Title against a guy who is 44-0 even if he is just as skilled / younger / faster and could win. He pays his dues and someday when he does his due time and his record matches that of the champ he THEN has the chance to fight that fight. Everyone in favor of this medal change patch is like that fighter who is 1-0 wondering why he isn't part of that championship fight after putting in no time.
I'm in favor of the medal change, and have been a BM for a little while now.

I can just as easily say that everyone who isn't in favor of the medal change sucks at PvP and just wants an advantage.

I don't feel that way, but it's easy to say, and that's how you come across.

It wasn't hard to get BM, stop acting like it was.
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Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

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Vember
02.28.2012 , 03:40 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Manski View Post
You have to EARN the right for a fair fight. A Boxer who is 1-0 doesn't get the opportunity to fight for the Heavy Weight Title against a guy who is 44-0 even if he is just as skilled / younger / faster and could win. He pays his dues and someday when he does his due time and his record matches that of the champ he THEN has the chance to fight that fight. Everyone in favor of this medal change patch is like that fighter who is 1-0 wondering why he isn't part of that championship fight after putting in no time.
That's just because there are so many of them. In mma, on the other hand, a 3-0 record fighter can fight for a title.

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Demorgoth
02.28.2012 , 03:40 PM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
Imagine two there are two sprocket makers, Jim and Bob. Jim makes twice as many sprokets as Bob per hour.

Should Jim get paid more?

If your answer is yes, then you ought to ALSO be in favor of reward being proportional to contribution in pvp, aka NOT in favor of the patch changes.

If your answer is no, congratulations, you're a communist.
I thought you already got paid considerably more, by virtue of being able to turn most warzones into wins simply because of your very presence and skill?

If Jim's abilities make him twice as likely to win a warzone than Bob, then unless Bob is sharing every warzone with Jim, then Jim will have more wins and hence more pay.

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Meatyx
02.28.2012 , 03:40 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by OrionDammit View Post

Healers in Warzones now receive kill credit when a healed player kills an enemy.
W00T!!!!


Quote: Originally Posted by OrionDammit View Post

Players affected by a Damage Over Time ability are no longer interrupted when interacting with objectives.

sadface

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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 03:41 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I'm in favor of the medal change, and have been a BM for a little while now.

I can just as easily say that everyone who isn't in favor of the medal change sucks at PvP and just wants an advantage.

I don't feel that way, but it's easy to say, and that's how you come across.

It wasn't hard to get BM, stop acting like it was.
If it wasn't hard, why do we need to make it easier?

Are there lots of people saying its too hard to get to and finish SWTOR's endgame? I don't think so lol... quite the opposite.

Quote: Originally Posted by Demorgoth View Post
I thought you already got paid considerably more, by virtue of being able to turn most warzones into wins simply because of your very presence and skill?

If Jim's abilities make him twice as likely to win a warzone than Bob, then unless Bob is sharing every warzone with Jim, then Jim will have more wins and hence more pay.
Wins hardly even matter now.

You'll get 2k valor minumum for LOSING, which is more than I ever got for my best, most hard fought win.
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mattyvoodoo
02.28.2012 , 03:42 PM | #206
Awesome changes Bioware! Sad that there's almost no open world pvp now, unless a guild takes it upon themselves to attack an opposing factions starting area, but I'm sure true open world pvp will come with time. It seems they had to overhaul everything, take a step back and start from the drawing board with open world pvp.

Either way... nice patch, this is what I needed to hear to get me to pull away from Star Craft 2 and get back to fighting the good fight.

kant w8 2 kil sum punk imp betchez.
Quote: Originally Posted by PhilCanuck View Post
I average 33 medals per match on my Healer/Tank/DPS hybrid.

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EternalFinality
02.28.2012 , 03:43 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
Eternal your example is pretty unintelligible. Try to clean it up a bit.

Are you trying to say that BM gear should be restricted so its entirely preformance based?
I don't favor gear discrepancies masking skill.

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Umpire
02.28.2012 , 03:43 PM | #208
why the dot change?
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EternalFinality
02.28.2012 , 03:44 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Manski View Post
Congratulations Sir. you just named 2 games that aren't an MMORPG. go play them and leave the progression and achievement to those who understand why we play MMORPGs. I can beat you at both of those too. zomggg it must be the gear!!!
PvP is PvP no matter what genre the game is.

MMO PvP is the worst of the worst as long as it clings to gear gaps. *Some* MMOs have realized this is a bad idea.

And now TOR is moving that way as well.

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Kunda
02.28.2012 , 03:44 PM | #210
I can't think of any reason for the medal changes other than to try and get folks on the most even footing as possible before rates warzones release.