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EternalFinality

02.28.2012 , 03:33 PM \| #191	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus Imagine two there are two sprocket makers, Jim and Bob. Jim makes twice as many sprokets as Bob per hour. Should Jim get paid more? If your answer is yes, then you ought to ALSO be in favor of reward being proportional to contribution in pvp, aka NOT in favor of the patch changes. If your answer is no, congratulations, you're a communist. Imagine there are two sprocket makers, Jim and Bob. Jim makes one tenth as many sprockets as Bob per hour, but works three times as many hours, but spends a lot of his time at work not making sprockets. Should Jim get paid more? If your answer is yes, then you ought to ALSO be in favor of reward being proportional to time spent in PvP and medals farmed, aka NOT in favor of the patch changes. If your answer is no, congratulations, you're not an idiot.

CanisAquilus

02.28.2012 , 03:33 PM \| #192	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MPagano Lol at people making analogies between communism and increased valor rewards. There has to be something in your life that isn't in this game that validates you. Nothing? Well, just take my word for it, nothing about playing this game will ever be like living under a communist regime. Ad hominem. Come back when you have a real argument thats halfway logical. Level of Preformance -> Level of reward. Thats all we want.
Jice Corvus #1 PvP Operative Lord Adraas I am John Galt

Tmaista

02.28.2012 , 03:35 PM \| #193	Quote
The farm to 50 valor was too great pre 1.1.5 my condolences to whoever did this.

EternalFinality

02.28.2012 , 03:35 PM \| #194	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Manski You have to EARN the right for a fair fight. A Boxer who is 1-0 doesn't get the opportunity to fight for the Heavy Weight Title against a guy who is 44-0 even if he is just as skilled / younger / faster and could win. He pays his dues and someday when he does his due time and his record matches that of the champ he THEN has the chance to fight that fight. Everyone in favor of this medal change patch is like that fighter who is 1-0 wondering why he isn't part of that championship fight after putting in no time. If I started a Counterstrike round with an AK and always had one when I respawned because I've played Counterstrike for 5 years, it would be a terrible multiplayer game. If I started a game of Dota with a free Demon Edge because I had played 500 matches previously, it would be a terrible multiplayer game.

Zynellan

02.28.2012 , 03:36 PM \| #195	Quote
I think I just creamed my pants. WZ's needed a lot of loving, this is a great start.
Decemberists We put the PRO in procrastination

Demorgoth

02.28.2012 , 03:36 PM \| #196	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus Sure there are seven other contributors. I'm not saying they shouldn't get anything OBVIOUSLY, I'm only saying that your reward should be dependant on your preformance. And how do you measure that performance? Medals? When some (like healing, defending, etc) are totally unavailable to certain classes. A button mashing chimp of one class can already get more medals than the most skilled PVPer ever born of another class, simply because of the way the medal system was distributed

Manski

02.28.2012 , 03:36 PM \| #197	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite This would make a lot more sense if there weren't already a gear ceiling that was very easy to meet for everyone. If you pvp to outgear your opponent, and win because they just didn't really stand a chance to begin w/, I would opin that you're pvp'ing for the wrong reasons. But to each their own, I suppose. I like the idea of more people on equal footing, bringing victory back to the hands of those who are skilled with their class/spec and knowledgeable about game mechanics. The people who are skilled with their class knowledgeable and know game mechanics don't have to worry because the current system already favors them. If you fall into that category and your undergeared, you won't be for long. These are the very players who will find idiots walking around in equal gear and those idiots will STILL GET STOMPED so it doesnt fix the fact that they suck it just makes them get to suck in the same stuff i got from being good.
Cless Conquerer Commando [The Fatman] Formerly Lowe - Commando of Hedar Soongh My PvP is a stencil, you mercs are just Tracers. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheManski15/videos

CanisAquilus

02.28.2012 , 03:37 PM \| #198	Quote
Eternal your example is pretty unintelligible. Try to clean it up a bit. Are you trying to say that BM gear should be restricted so its entirely preformance based?
Jice Corvus #1 PvP Operative Lord Adraas I am John Galt

GladiatorSam

02.28.2012 , 03:37 PM \| #199	Quote
itt medal farmers complaining that now they can't medal farm instead of helping their team win.

Manski

02.28.2012 , 03:38 PM \| #200	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality If I started a Counterstrike round with an AK and always had one when I respawned because I've played Counterstrike for 5 years, it would be a terrible multiplayer game. If I started a game of Dota with a free Demon Edge because I had played 500 matches previously, it would be a terrible multiplayer game. Congratulations Sir. you just named 2 games that aren't an MMORPG. go play them and leave the progression and achievement to those who understand why we play MMORPGs. I can beat you at both of those too. zomggg it must be the gear!!!
Cless Conquerer Commando [The Fatman] Formerly Lowe - Commando of Hedar Soongh My PvP is a stencil, you mercs are just Tracers. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheManski15/videos

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