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Keldaur
02.28.2012 , 03:24 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by T-Nutz View Post
I kind of see what you are getting at. I play a Scoundrel. I have I think one DOT. It is not an AOE DOT, but it is a DOT none the less. If someone is capping a door in Voidstar and I hit them with the DOT. They take damage, why wouldn't it stop them from capturing it? It makes them take damage, damage negates the countdown.
Because you and every dotter with no cd on it can stop people from cappit it while los'in. It's quite easy to do on voidstar, and a real pain in the *** on alderaan left/right side when played well. I used to do it a lot, so i understand (even if there are dispells) why they should change it. You can autoattack at 30m tho.

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EternalFinality
02.28.2012 , 03:26 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I don't really get it.

More people w/ comparable gear means better fights in PvP for everyone.

Why are you guys even complaining? The whole point of pvp gear is to have equal footing for everyone, not to outgear your opponent.

This is a good change for BMs who actually enjoy pvp.
Don't you see? They don't WANT fair fights or equal competition. They just want to stomp.

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Yukondoit
02.28.2012 , 03:28 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
Imagine two there are two sprocket makers, Jim and Bob. Jim makes twice as many sprokets as Bob per hour.

Should Jim get paid more?

If your answer is yes, then you ought to ALSO be in favor of reward being proportional to contribution in pvp, aka NOT in favor of the patch changes.

If your answer is no, congratulations, you're a communist.
It's funny because it's true.

I'm mostly in favor of these changes, but it's hard to argue that the Medal Ceiling is anything other than socialist gobbledegook.
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 03:28 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality View Post
Don't you see? They don't WANT fair fights or equal competition. They just want to stomp.
Are you reading what I'm posting at all?

We want our hard work and excellent preformance to get rewarded. Thats all.
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Amiodarone
02.28.2012 , 03:29 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion View Post
Dude, I have a $2,500 dollar self built rig and I get slideshows in illum when playing at low settings. So it's a huge problem. If I'm having so much issues, I can't imagine what people with normal computers are going through..

Sorry to tell you but you over payed then.. My rig is less than $2000 and I rarely if ever drop below 60 fps.. More times than not I average 75-100+ fps everywhere including the fleet and wz. I went from lagging to never lagging on the new machine regardless of where I am or what I am doing..

Either your hardware choices sucked or you didn't get enough RAM or a decent video card.. You skimped some where

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MPagano
02.28.2012 , 03:31 PM | #186
Lol at people making analogies between communism and increased valor rewards.

There has to be something in your life that isn't in this game that validates you. Nothing? Well, just take my word for it, nothing about playing this game will ever be like living under a communist regime.

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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 03:31 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
Actually, thats an opinon, not some universal truth.

I and most people I believe pvp and raid to get better stuff for their character. I may go just to help out other people if they're in my guild but for a bunch of people I don't know? Hell no.



Sure there are seven other contributors. I'm not saying they shouldn't get anything OBVIOUSLY, I'm only saying that your reward should be dependant on your preformance.

Not some flat rate you get for showing up.

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Imagine two there are two sprocket makers, Jim and Bob. Jim makes twice as many sprokets as Bob per hour.

Should Jim get paid more?

If your answer is yes, then you ought to ALSO be in favor of reward being proportional to contribution in pvp, aka NOT in favor of the patch changes.

If your answer is no, congratulations, you're a communist.
This would make a lot more sense if there weren't already a gear ceiling that was very easy to meet for everyone.

If you pvp to outgear your opponent, and win because they just didn't really stand a chance to begin w/, I would opin that you're pvp'ing for the wrong reasons.

But to each their own, I suppose.

I like the idea of more people on equal footing, bringing victory back to the hands of those who are skilled with their class/spec and knowledgeable about game mechanics.
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T-Nutz
02.28.2012 , 03:32 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiodarone View Post
Sorry to tell you but you over payed then.. My rig is less than $2000 and I rarely if ever drop below 60 fps.. More times than not I average 75-100+ fps everywhere including the fleet and wz. I went from lagging to never lagging on the new machine regardless of where I am or what I am doing..

Either your hardware choices sucked or you didn't get enough RAM or a decent video card.. You skimped some where
SS, vid or it didn't happen. And I want to see the FPS in the lower left corner, Shift+CRTL+F

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RoyFokker
02.28.2012 , 03:32 PM | #189
The changes to PvP, particularly the speeders and DoT's are about the dumbest ideas ever. If you want to change speeders, take the stupid *********** speeder ride out of Voidstar. That has to be the most pointless, craptastic pile to ever be forced to sit through over and over. DoT forced you to communicate and work together. Now it just got turned into even more easy mode for the people who were the ones crying about that. Apparently objectives still got turned even with DoT affecting objective flipping.

As for you clowns saying Bioware is listening, the only people they seem to be listening to are the talentless crybabies. This isn't a good thing.

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Manski
02.28.2012 , 03:32 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality View Post
Don't you see? They don't WANT fair fights or equal competition. They just want to stomp.
You have to EARN the right for a fair fight. A Boxer who is 1-0 doesn't get the opportunity to fight for the Heavy Weight Title against a guy who is 44-0 even if he is just as skilled / younger / faster and could win. He pays his dues and someday when he does his due time and his record matches that of the champ he THEN has the chance to fight that fight. Everyone in favor of this medal change patch is like that fighter who is 1-0 wondering why he isn't part of that championship fight after putting in no time.
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