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Newbrax
02.28.2012 , 02:36 PM | #151
This game went from easy to being able to accidentally stumble upon a full set of Champion and/or BM gear. Pathetic.
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 02:37 PM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Newbrax View Post
This game went from easy to being able to accidentally stumble upon a full set of Champion and/or BM gear. Pathetic.
This. Totally pathetic.

To everyone cheering on this change, you should really think about it.

Would you like to put in hard work and get a reward most people dont have, or would you like everyone on the server to have the same "elite" gear with little to no work?

When you finally get your bm gear with these new changes, there will be zero sense of accomplishment or pride in it, because literally everyone is going to have that gear.
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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 02:37 PM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by FINALBOSS View Post
I'd say over 75% of the Battlemasters around these days are only BM because of Ilum farming. You're not a special snowflake...and you CERTAINLY didn't "earn it" the hard way.
I'd say maybe 25% of the BMs around these days are from that.

Most of them already quit.

A lot of people (like myself) did it the legit way, w/out kill trading, etc. It's not hard if you pvp from 10-49 and start lv50 as rank 50 valor.
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Manski
02.28.2012 , 02:39 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by MPagano View Post
And so it begins, as BW implements changes to the PvP system to make it more competitive and focused on objectives, the fairweather PvP players are going to start to whine. The ranking system is going to send people over the edge as they're forced to play people at their gear level.

"Why would I farm medals if you cutoff the number that awards valor?"

You don't. You aren't supposed to farm medals. You're supposed to play the objective. And before you say "I don't care about the objective", ask yourself what you're doing in a warzone. It's instanced, team-based pvp with a specific rule set and a clearly defined winner/loser. If you want deathmatch go play another game. PvP to win, and you'll see the rewards.
like i said in a previous post. I already win. pretty much all the time, because thats what good players do, now without medals to farm for reward i have no reason to play or nothing to keep my interest after the first 2 minutes of a game (which is all it usually takes to mop up the other team and have them all leave). This will chase all the good pvpers away. Player Vs. Player, for me that means playing so you can beat down other REAL people and thus become stronger then them and set yourself apart. Equal reward for poor performance? I guess teachers and professors should give A's to the retarded kids just for showing up to the tests now too? That's what this is like, Welfare *********** pvp system
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 02:40 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post


A lot of people (like myself) did it the legit way, w/out kill trading, etc. It's not hard if you pvp from 10-49 and start lv50 as rank 50 valor.
Exactly. It wasn't even that hard before, and now its a cakewalk.

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I guess teachers and professors should give A's to the retarded kids just for showing up to the tests now too? That's what this is like, Welfare *********** pvp system
Lol yep. A's for everyone, even if you don't study.

Show up, get an A.
Jice Corvus
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islander
02.28.2012 , 02:41 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post
This. Totally pathetic.

To everyone cheering on this change, you should really think about it.

Would you like to put in hard work and get a reward most people dont have, or would you like everyone on the server to have the same "elite" gear with little to no work?

When you finally get your bm gear with these new changes, there will be zero sense of accomplishment or pride in it, because literally everyone is going to have that gear.
I agree. I posted on my guild forums that easy mode was being engaged, and I was glad I never PvP'd while I leveled. although at the time, it was more because pvp was a broken mess and I enjoyed the story content.
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Manski
02.28.2012 , 02:44 PM | #157
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For some reason, all I hear is the sound of a baby crying.
yeah that baby is you. You enjoy being spoon fed gear and rewards like a baby.
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Formerly Lowe - Commando of Hedar Soongh
My PvP is a stencil, you mercs are just Tracers.

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Varicite
02.28.2012 , 02:58 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Manski View Post
yeah that baby is you. You enjoy being spoon fed gear and rewards like a baby.
I don't really get it.

More people w/ comparable gear means better fights in PvP for everyone.

Why are you guys even complaining? The whole point of pvp gear is to have equal footing for everyone, not to outgear your opponent.

This is a good change for BMs who actually enjoy pvp.
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CanisAquilus
02.28.2012 , 03:01 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
I don't really get it.

More people w/ comparable gear means better fights in PvP for everyone.

Why are you guys even complaining? The whole point of pvp gear is to have equal footing for everyone, not to outgear your opponent.

This is a good change for BMs who actually enjoy pvp.
That really isn't the point of pvp gear.

The point of pvp gear is the exact same as the point of pve gear. Semi-exclusive rewards for people who are excellent at a particular aspect of the game/have put more time into it. People do endgame pve raiding so they can have really good, cool looking gear that sets them apart somewhat.

PVP is the exact same thing.

Thankfully they've yet to grant raid rewards to people for completing normal mode flashpoints, (1.1.6 maybe?), and I'm in a good raiding guild so I can still get semi unusual gear.
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Vember
02.28.2012 , 03:01 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by CanisAquilus View Post

Would you like to put in hard work and get a reward most people dont have, or would you like everyone on the server to have the same "elite" gear with little to no work?
I dont' like stomping undergeared noobs and I don't like being stomped by overgeared tools. So I'd rather they made it as easy as possible for everyone to be on even footing. Pvp needs a different carrot...Player vs Gear is not my idea of pvp.