No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

remove pvp finder, it ruins communities too!

FPs shouldn't be your only avenue for socializing and guild recruiting, besides you'll still be able to manually create groups. Then all the Anti's can play together. Everyone wins. Yay.

I think any LFD should at least make same server group mates a priority. While chances are you will still wind up with many others from another realm, at least it still encourages domestic socializing compared to being completely random.

I think this is very fair, thank you for posting Proksham. The only issue is that a X-LFD is intended to help realms who cannot foster a group so there has to a 5 minute penatly or something to encourage cross server grouping.

Players who want a dungeon experience on the same server will wait a slightly queue and search out players manually instead

OR

Get in slightly faster and do cross server

^This. It should at least try to group people from the same server together. Personally, I think this aspect should come later, as server populations start to rise. If people on low-pop servers have to worry about tanks and healers being constantly snatched away from them because people from the tank's/healer's server decided to queue then it really doesn't end up helping those low population servers much, if at all. So yes, in theory, I'd like same-server grouping to be the eventual goal, just not right away.

I am going to copy this post from the WoW forums, because it addresses specifically why this LFG tool is a bad idea. I did not write it, but I agree with it completely. TOR already doesn't have a world that feels alive, this will kill it even more.


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I'd like to start off by saying that I think Blizzard has done an absolutely amazing job with this game. Really, you guys should feel wonderful about it. This game is unmatched in its music, lore, quest design, atmosphere, and general sense of aesthetics. Never have I played an MMO that has enthralled me as well as WoW (and the list of "have played" is quite extensive). Your customer support team deserves major kudos. Whenever I've had a problem, they've always managed to not only fix it, but fix it without making me feel like a complete idiot. There is a reason that I've continued to play this game after six years.

It's with a heavy heart then that I see this beautiful world being ripped to shreds by something as seemingly small as the LFR and the LFG. These two systems have not only destroy any semblance of a World ever existing outside of Major cities, but any sense of a Server community outside of the forums. Yes, it kinda sucked traveling half way across the world to get to a summoning stone, summoning the three people, realizing the Warrior had forgot to switch to prot, and having to wait for him to travel to SW (or Org whatever floats your boat) and be summoned back. Ya know what you were doing for that 10-20mins you were waiting though? Messing around with the opposing faction as they attempted to enter the dungeon portal (I remember the great war of Blackrock Mountain, or more recently Naxx 10/25 where druids would push people off of the necropolis for giggles (NEVER FORGET PARACHUTE CLOAK)), playing tag, comparing items, raiding nearby enemy faction towns, yelling at each other, complementing each other, joining, disbanding, and creating guilds, talkin' smack, talkin' strats, Netherstorm Russian Roulette (how late CAN you hit that accept button?), PARKOUR MEGAMAP ADVENTURE, Snowball fights, Daily quest marathon race, Dueling, Talking in general, racing, comparing Non-combat pets, using the in-game voice feature, giving vent info, and lastly but most importantly making friends and enemies. These were people who were ON YOUR SERVER!

Gone are the days of having someone call in their pocket "geared pro healer/tank/dps friend" who might not even be that good, but it was okay because hey "it's easier to train him/her than it is to find a new group member". Even with low level dungeons it was great, because these were people that you would be leveling with and running into repeatedly. Heck, leveling mid-BC from 55 to 70 was by far one of the greatest experiences I've ever had in this game. I even wound up joining a raiding guild with those same four people, and while we never made it passed The Eye, we did manage to hole up in Org for over an hour while 10-20 members of the opposing faction attempted to route us out of the small building we had take up occupancy in.

Not to mention the fact that servers no longer have an effective way to police themselves. It used to be so simple! You ninja loot, have a bad attitude, and refuse to fix your mistakes? You gained a name for yourself on the server, and were blacklisted causing you to either get a name change or server transfer. Same thing worked in reverse to. You have a nice attitude, are laid back, and seem like you're at least trying to look like you know what you were doing? You were added to a friends list, and called in for runs out of the blue. The LFG and LFR have seemingly taken the job of discipline out of the hands of the Player and handed it to Customer Support to deal with. Rather than us being forced to settle our problems like adults, we now have to go to Teacher to deal with it.

Not to mention the fact that the LFR and LFG have dramatically increased the rate at which players see and devour content. The people who did the content day one back in the day, are still doing it day one now and being burned out. The people who USED to take days and weeks to do the content are now ALSO getting it finished day one, and are now ALSO getting burned out day one. Before the LFG, I was lucky if I got to do a single instance a week, AND I WAS OKAY WITH THAT, it just meant that the content, for me was stretched out. Rather than doing the same instance over and over again in a manner of hours, it was disseminated over a period of months.

You, and by you I mean Blizzard, state that the reason you put in the LFR and the LFG was because it gave players who normally wouldn't see the content, a chance to see the content. Are you saying that instances are the only content? Are you saying that the other 70-80% of the world you put so much time into isn't content? Of course not, your simply trying to provide a better game through better features. Unfortunately these features have replaced a better system, the player.

TLDR SHORT VERSION!
What WoW is doing right: Music, Customer support, player interaction, PvE content, Quest design, Atmosphere, character models, smooth animations, providing new content, I LOVE YOU VOID STORAGE AND TRANSMOGRIFICATION

Why the LFG and LFR did more harm than good: Shrunk the world, gave other people no reason to socialize with others on their server, increased the rate at which people devour content, made WoW a grind, gotten rid of the special feeling of doing an instance (It stops feeling special when you're able to do a run 5 times a day back to back of a specific instance rather than the one your time has allotted you.), Made it easier to replace a group member than to train a group member

Took the WORLD out of WOLRD OF WARCRAFT.

P.S. Sorry if my argument kind of trails off and fractions, or is hard to understand, just point a part out and i'll try reply as quickly as possible.

P.S.S Regardless of your opinion on the manner, please be respectful!

Dunno I came from EVE Online and the fleet finder there was a godsend. Granted it's a single server universe but hey can't we all get along.

I think the reason the LFG (fleet finder) works so good there is because you get to set very specific rules for people who get into your fleets. So if you want to have a closed group have one if you want an open group have one. If you see someone afk'ing in a group you can "BAN" them from the group, and so on and so forth.

How is it bad if you get to know people from different TZ's. I've brought quite a few people from all over the world onto the USEast servers and so far the world is still here and nothing terrible has happened. Maybe it will now that I've let the secret out.

It's not that the servers are dying.
It's not that there is no end game content.
It's not that the pvp is boring.

It's that there is no cross-server LFG tool so that people can quickly find groups, experience the end game content, and the pvp can have more variation in who wins and who you play against.

The current LFG system is a piece of crap, likely due to lazy or incompetent devs.
They didn't make it better because of the trolls that said noob noon no LFG noob noob.
Well welcome to the biggest flop mmo of 2012.

You think the forums are bad now with QQing about no cross-server LFG? Just wait for cross-server LFG, people will act like asses and there will be even more QQing about cross-server LFG looting/harassment/dou-che-baggery.

Thanks for the share