55k repair bill

Exaggeration is crucial when whining about stuff like this you know. This particular subject is also great since it allows exaggerating on so many things: the actual cost of repairs, the amount of deaths, the time consumed by doing dailies, the uselessness of all crew skills, lack of time in general, the amount of time everyone of opposing opinion has and thus their lack of life(tm), cost of stripping mods from gear (constantly naturally), cost of gear in 1.2. There's probably more but those are a good start.

Gotta love it. It's either exaggeration, selective memory lose or just some flat out lies about what gear they're wearing when they wipe.
I know what I'd bet on in most cases

Sure, they won't complain about it; however, the number of players that enjoy both raiding and min/maxing is quite small compared to the total player population.

You want to try to tar and feather someone for reading comprehension and then fail to read where I'm not having a problem with credits?

Let me say it again:

I don't have a problem with credits - I am not broke. At the same time, I understand that I play TOR far more than the average Joe. I can see where the average Joe might not be able to put in enough time to stay ahead on credits.

Come down off your high horse brah.

The notion that you're supposed to work hard in an MMO is a dying notion, and I, for one, can't wait to see it take that final faceplant into the unmarked grave it deserves.

Forced credit sinks are a low man's cop-out device in this sort've game. If you can't come up with appeals to vanity and utility that people -want- to spend their happy-funtime game time pursuing, why exactly are you designing games again?


If it were up to me, I'd have roaming NPC's with variegated inventories roaming hither and yon about worlds and stations selling everything from random assortments of up to top quality gear to occasional rounds of limited-availability armor, weapons, mods, color crystals, utility items (such as speeders), droid parts and so on.

Some of those not-always-around NPC's would be reseller NPC smugglers that would drift between faction areas. Wanna sell your Armortech goodies to -anyone- ponying up the creds? Go through this short quest chain and talk to Shifty or Ebenezard the Filthy, wherever they're at at and whenever you find them; for a 15% shave off your sell price (10% up front), they'll cart your goods around until some other player talking to them buys them and then mail you your share of the proceeds. Maybe they'll sell in Republic zones, maybe in Imperial, maybe not at all; if your junk doesn't sell in 30 days, they'll keep half your deposit and mail the rest and your junk back to you.

Could be quests associated with Shifty and Ebenezard. Maybe to do with their competition with eachother, being that they'd perform the same service. Maybe players could go through a questline for Ebenezard or Shifty and ultimately get to choose to help one over the other, whereafter which they'd be unable to do business with whomever they shafted, but would enjoy a permanent reduction of the 15% shave to a mere 5% with whomever they helped and gain access to a 'Priority channel' whereby which they could contact Shifty or Ebenezard at any time and both list and recall goods if need be at any time.

The questline to gain that functionality could indeed be a solo, story-driven quest that could well cost credits to ultimately complete. But hey, if Shifty or Ebenezard are useful to you and you're helping one gain the upper hand over the other, you might have to pay a few bribes on their behalf; break a few kneecaps maybe...or pay for some damages to keep their names out of a matter (so they can keep working) when you're stopping someone else from breaking -their- kneecaps and collateral damage happens.


There could totally be NPC fashion celebrities that occasionally appear in certain places with their cadres of clingers-on, where their 'latest and vintage lines' are on display; say hello to a new way for limited-availability social, DS, LS and general vanity/customizable gear to become available. Some stuff would be recurring and more common; some stuff might appear only once or twice a realtime year and cost fortunes.


Crazy, huh? And that's just an off-the-cuff tip of a single iceberg on what could, with just a little effort, be done with existing technology. Wouldn't take herculean feats of savantry; just some writing and some coding and some testing and some quality inspection same as anything else in the game.



Instead, we get...this, with resource sinks that are about as interesting as they are innovative.

*Disparate handwaving at the game goes here*

Enjoy.

I like this idea - though, I would like to see less rigid rules on the players regarding factions anyway. That is one of the few things that I liked about EQ1. Individual races hated other individual races, but the players were allowed to interact with and group with whoever they wanted.

Obviously, it would be difficult to do that in TOR at this point. I wouldn't mind seeing some flashpoints in the future where it was possible though. Faction wars seem so stupid in this day and time. Why intentionally split the server population in half? It would make more sense to have the faction be per server - as in "This is a Republic server - everyone is Republic here" - and then match them up together using cross-server warzones.

1) some people like world pvp....
2) if your server was all one faction, the game would be boring as heck to people who like pvp....which means there would be even less people on your server (some people on PvE servers like world pvp sometimes).

OT: Credits = very easy to make
OP: You say you are artifice...and can't make credits???? RE enhancements, RE offhands, etc...some epic offhands sell for like 50k and only cost like 10k to make....

artifice is one of the better money making crew skills in the game, haven't you noticed that treasure hunting missions are one of the most expensive missions (if not the most expensive)?


he said he has a million credits on "all of his toons"...he never said he bought all inventory expansions, cargo bay expansions and speeder ranks. For all you know, he never bought any of them, and doesn't even have rank 1 speeder piloting.

I have more than a million credits on all of my toons as well. Only my main has all inventory expansions, and I only have bought 3 cargo bay tabs on my main, my alts just have 2.

You're right, buying all cargo bay & inventory expansions is a lot of dough...it's a lot of dough that doesn't need to be spent unless you are a big time crafter and are saving up mats for 1.2. For the average joe, there's no reason to spend that much money on all of the cargo bay & inventory slots.

Repair bill can be expensive if you don't like doing dailies. But as others have mentioned, the price of admission is...

What the repair bills does keep me from doing a lot of the time is PUGing HM FP's. I have no desire to waste my credits because a pugged FP went terribly wrong.

Get Slicing and level it up. Send companions out on level 3 or 4 Rich lockbox missions if you have low affection, and send your companions you have a few thousand points of affection with on level 5 Bountiful, Abundant, and Rich lockbox missions. You can do this whil running your flashpoints, and you'll earn the money for your repairs. Unless your groups are really bad, then do five dailies and you'll get approximately 37,000 credits.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=332938




another thread for repair costs being atleast 50% too much.

top end gear should not cost more than 30K to repair .


as to the ones qqing about grinding credits... where are you grinding at? I do dailies on Ilum/belsavis grind on Corellia and other planet and that's fine, covers my repair cost ( most times ) unless something bad happens,

Doing HM's or op's of fp's and you wipe a time or two.. might as well NOT go back for a 3rd attempt... due to the repair cost.