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Esproc
02.28.2012 , 01:03 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by oursacrifice View Post
The problem is, this stance never has and never will make sense.

SWTOR isn't competing with 2005 WoW, it's competing with 2011/2012 WoW.
And that means that a young child is supposed to be your current equivalent because that child is competing in your world.

Just remember that that child has a chance to grow up, and maybe out class you.

I was there during the crashes, down time and the "free" time given in reparation of the "old dog" that was once a challenge, but is now only /faceroll.
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Evolved_Monky
02.28.2012 , 01:08 PM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Kowasin View Post
And TOR has none of this right?
L2R FTW

But i guess its easier to cut up a post and twist it.

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Morthis
02.28.2012 , 01:27 PM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
I was there during the crashes, down time and the "free" time given in reparation of the "old dog" that was once a challenge, but is now only /faceroll.
It's funny because it actually used to be a faceroll and now became challenging. The old challenge was finding 40 players, skill was entirely optional for the vast majority of those 40.

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Esproc
02.28.2012 , 02:00 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Morthis View Post
It's funny because it actually used to be a faceroll and now became challenging. The old challenge was finding 40 players, skill was entirely optional for the vast majority of those 40.
lolololololololololololol

You have no clue, but thanks for the laugh.

Before I left I would end up sitting on my mount just looking around having done all the dailies and just bored out of my skull.

If it were any more /faceroll I could lay my head on my keyboard and sleep through it. Oh, I have. I used 2-3 hours of a 5 day trial before SWTOR Pre-Launch, it is pathetic now, period. Full of easier than ever leveling, Non Aggroing mobs until you are flown to Kharanos, and worse. I hadn't leveled a toon in so long that I didn't realize just how /faceroll it had become.
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Frostvein
02.28.2012 , 02:05 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by Esproc View Post
lolololololololololololol

You have no clue, but thanks for the laugh.

Before I left I would end up sitting on my mount just looking around having done all the dailies and just bored out of my skull.

If it were any more /faceroll I could lay my head on my keyboard and sleep through it. Oh, I have. I used 2-3 hours of a 5 day trial before SWTOR Pre-Launch, it is pathetic now, period. Full of easier than ever leveling, Non Aggroing mobs until you are flown to Kharanos, and worse. I hadn't leveled a toon in so long that I didn't realize just how /faceroll it had become.
Did you clear the heroic content?

Easymode LFR and normal modes were a joke. Heroic content in that game continues to be some of the most challenging content ever released.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

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Naivesteve
02.28.2012 , 02:12 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
Did you clear the heroic content?

Easymode LFR and normal modes were a joke. Heroic content in that game continues to be some of the most challenging content ever released.
Most people who complain about WoW being too easy have never attempted any of the Heroic modes of any tier.

Hell, Blizzard releases data all the time about the percentage of players that actually down Heroic bosses. It's usually quite small (under 10%).
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oursacrifice
02.28.2012 , 02:19 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
Also, can you please list all the end game stuff World of Warcraft currently has?
I classify "end game" as things you cannot do while leveling and that's also classified as "current" content - so normal battlegrounds, prior level 85 raids and daily quests don't count IMO

So you have:

rated battlegrounds
arena
1 raid with 8 bosses and 3 distinct difficulty levels (less than 2% of the WoW population has fully cleared on hardmode)
3 or so new heroic 5 man dungeons

So you still have a huge portion of the population not "finished" with WoW end game for this expansion - that's a great thing for a raid that's a few months old.

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NDiggy
02.28.2012 , 02:21 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
The thing is, what will keep gamers from cancelling their subscription is how good the endgame is. And while SWToR's 1-50 gameplay me be better than WoW's, once you hit 50 you are pretty much done. Raids are easy, getting full battlemaster is easy, and there is no competitivity at all since we don't have tools to measure our own performance, let alone others. On the other hand you have WoW, which lacks something completely unnecessary for an MMO(Voice Acting), and instead put more effort in balancing the time you take to complete the endgame.
Lol, WoW endgame and SWTOR endgame are almost identical. Aside from arenas and damage meters they're virtually the same, one big gear grind. If you think Cataclysm's end game content was more difficult than SWTOR's you're crazy. At least BW has the excuse that they haven't got 10+ years of experience designing MMO endgame content, what is Blizzard's excuse?
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sinfulace
02.28.2012 , 02:22 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobzitto View Post
The thing is, what will keep gamers from cancelling their subscription is how good the endgame is. And while SWToR's 1-50 gameplay me be better than WoW's, once you hit 50 you are pretty much done. Raids are easy, getting full battlemaster is easy, and there is no competitivity at all since we don't have tools to measure our own performance, let alone others. On the other hand you have WoW, which lacks something completely unnecessary for an MMO(Voice Acting), and instead put more effort in balancing the time you take to complete the endgame.
Wow did not even have endgame at release!

Also if you think getting full Battlemaster and Rakata is easy then i crown you the king of basement dwellers. May the virginity be with you.

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BlackZoback
02.28.2012 , 02:23 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Naivesteve View Post
Most people who complain about WoW being too easy have never attempted any of the Heroic modes of any tier.

Hell, Blizzard releases data all the time about the percentage of players that actually down Heroic bosses. It's usually quite small (under 10%).
Was closer to 1% for most of WoW's life and only reached those numbers when Wotlk came to a close, ICC was made mosty faceroll and yet and still only 10% of people completed it.
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