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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?

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2/22/2012 -> Can we get an update on where the Combat Log is?
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Grenandine
02.28.2012 , 09:38 AM | #921
Having played WOW for years, I can confidently say that there will always be jerks in the game. I will also say that there are people who delight in tormenting others. One way that happened in WOW was that people would join a group and then do nothing to help during the fights. Meters will help identify that.

I never complained when running PUGs in Lich King that a player was only doing 900dps, but I did compalin when they did 300. That said, when I was struggling with groups on new content that was challenging, we would all work hard to do our best just to succeed. My friends put up with my poor PC, but I still had to do my best. I had a way to find that out in that game.

I try not to worry about the 10% of jerks that will always exist. They put an ignore feature in for that.
Grenandine - Master of Sunrise

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Voqar
02.28.2012 , 09:40 AM | #922
Quote: Originally Posted by zodden View Post
This is by far NOT the most important issue. Are you actually saying that its more important than fixing PvP? Or adding content for 50s? I think not...
I don't care about PvP. They could remove it. It's a joke, just like it is in every PvE MMOPRG ever made. But people keep thinking "this time, it's going to be different." Which is like saying, people are incapable of thinking, because it's not happening and not going to happen. Instanced BGs and Ilum are not PvP - they are garbage. Arena isn't PvP - it's garbage. Real MMORPG PvP is fully integrated with the whole game and has some meaning and impact, it isn't just a farming mechanism. Few games even make the attempt to do it right, and even fewer get close to pulling it off. The PvE MMORPGs like WoW and TOR that make no attempt at all might as well not even have the crap they call PvP.

Slapped on PvP in complex PvE games has no hope of balance and no hope of having a point or meaning.

PvP in games like TOR is just another lame activity for soloists to do to get ez-mode gear. You don't need a group or to know anybody (you get placed in a crap group of people you don't care about automatically), you don't need to know how to play or to even try, you get rewarded whether you win or lose, and you get purple quality loot at a stupidly fast rate (and loot at all levels doing warzones at a stupidly fast rate).

Anyways.

I wouldn't say combat log is the number one most critical thing the game needs. But it does need it. Need isn't even the word. Pathetic is the word. As in, it's utterly pathetic that a MMORPG in 2012 doesn't have a combat log, one of the most ultra simple and most basic features that has existed in MMORPGs since the dawn of MMORPG history.
Failure to enforce the naming policy on RP servers is one reason I'm semi-retired from TOR. It's a sign that BW doesn't care about quality.

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Calimwulf
02.28.2012 , 09:48 AM | #923
So why is this thread still churning? They are going to be coming out with an update on the combat log at the guild summit.
"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill."

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Atech
02.28.2012 , 11:27 AM | #924
Quote:
Originally Posted by georgzoeller
we're going to give an update on this topic at the guild summit
WE ARE?!


This tells me bioware is not talking with their own team internally. Managers faults for not having open communication.

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SnowVeliers
02.28.2012 , 02:34 PM | #925
Quote: Originally Posted by Atech View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by georgzoeller
we're going to give an update on this topic at the guild summit
WE ARE?!


This tells me bioware is not talking with their own team internally. Managers faults for not having open communication.
Are you serious about what you are saying? LOL
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Frostvein
03.01.2012 , 01:19 PM | #926
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=336689


TL : DR -

Players: "Sup with combat logs/parsers?"

Bioware: "Coming for real"
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

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JediElf
03.01.2012 , 01:32 PM | #927
It's times like this, that I'm so glad that I picked an RP server.

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Urael
03.01.2012 , 01:38 PM | #928
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=336689


TL : DR -

Players: "Sup with combat logs/parsers?"

Bioware: "Coming for real"
Beat me to it!

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MPagano
03.01.2012 , 01:44 PM | #929
They've stated in an interview that combat logs are coming along with 3rd party add ons to design parsers. Can we close the thread now?

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Sathid
03.01.2012 , 01:47 PM | #930
Third party like ACT? pfft come one Bioware this creates those basement dwellers wet dreams with this BS,been there done it,seen it and what it does to a community and none of it is good.