This game lacks epeen

As discussed millions of times, being hardcore doesn´t make you a better player.

If you really are a good player you don´t need, threat indicators, macros, target indicators, healbots and all the crap that comes with it.

Just wanted to make sure this got noticed. I agree 100%. Not ALL MMOs have to follow the same format.

When is to hard ''you'' complain, when is to easy ''you'' also complain...
Is to easy to lvl up you complain, is to hard to lvl up... Complain again....
To many people on server you complain.. Servers are empty you complain....

This is that kinda of game that u sit, relax and have a good time playing and enjoying a good game, if u dont escape all dialogues... Or going to warzones calling noobs to all team lol.

This is how I would make a 'Hardcore' server. This would only require changes to the Flashpoints and Ops.

Make is so that you cannot be rezzed in a FP or Ops. If you die, you are locked out of the FP/Ops for that group. No Battle Rez avaliable either. Noone but the original group can enter the FP/Ops until it is complete or reset.

In FPs only. Groups who wipe can re-enter the FP after a 4 hour wait. Groups who finish (even the players who died) can re-enter immediately if they so desire. Players cannot 'reset' HM/NM manually.

This would mean that groups who lose 1 or 2 members fighting content would have a harder and harder time beating the next content because they have less people.

Add an "Insane" mode to both Flashpoints and Ops. All Non-boss mobs increase in 'lvl' by 1 (from weak->Normal, Nomal->strong, ect). Bosses and Champion mods get 20% increase in Damage on all attacks.

Players who survive to the end of the FP/Ops get a Title stating something like

"HM False Emporer" or if on NM (NM False Emporer"

So that they can show to everyone how 'epeen' they are. Players who died in the instance get nothing.

Would this make the epeen hardcore crowd happier?

Except for the fact that new content will be availble when the "softcores" get there, so they won't have a reason to come here and whine. You, on the other hand...

"Hardcore" players burning through content because they cannot be bothered with the rest of the game and only want to see the end is not the developers problem. It is the hardcore players problem.

No game will ever be designed to supply "hardcores" with endless content to keep them placated. Ever. Game development takes time.

Spoken directly out of my heart. Where do the so called casuals get their bossguides, skill guides etc from? from those whom try to play on the highest possible competitive level. Its them doing all the theorycrafting. So i think they deserve their share of competitiveness.

At this point (and i have to take in the knowledge of my friend cause i did no nightmare ops yet) the term "nightmare" just doesnt deliver what it really means. Failing is the best sign for a good fight (only if the reason is not a bug tho :P) it tells you that u got to improve either gear, skill or tacticalwise...and thats what Raids/Ops are about...beeing challenged.

I would argue that the e-peen mentality is why other mmo's *have* nice things; a community with an identity, resources for new/learning players and stable economies. Refer back to SWG's economy pre and post nge if you need an example, where certian prices jumped 300-2000% due to some areas of the game lacking supplies funded by, you guessed it, the hardcore community. WoW currently has one of the largest Wiki information pages in the world, not to mention countless other sites dedicated to it; What percentage of the information available there do you think was found by the small 5-10% of players that you're refering to compared to the casual majority who is just content to play the game? Researching loot tables, drop rates and making complete item lists broken down by rarity, type, stats etc. are not bothered with traditionally by the casual player, but it still benefits and enhances their gameplay, and they rightfully still use the information.


Even just looking at TOR will show you this fact. How much of the information on the game do we have from the beta testers who were grinding from 1-50 12 to 20 times to learn as much about the game as possible? How many are responsible for the guides and explanations for the flashpoints and boss fights? I would reference the TOR community, but there is no such thing in a game where pretty much everything is easy enough to do on your own. <_< TOR's ingame community doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same category as WoW, SWG or even Aion's community identities, and that's going to not only affect your current gameplay, but the future of this game as well. TOR to a new person might as well be a single player game, so if you're looking for a good story with a community that helps *drive* that story along, you're SOL and are going to look elsewhere after that story grows tiring or is finished.

What seems to be constantly missed is the hardcore players on WoW *created* the community and infastructure that the casuals can hop in and out of on their whim, just as hardcore players in SWG created what many still hold to be the greatest MMO community they've ever been a part of. So i guess the TL;DR is you're right that hardcores arent a substantial wing of the plane, if you'll agree that the workers that built your sports stadium aren't substantial in allowing you to enjoy your leisure time. <_<


Phew. xD Lunch time. :3 (sidenote; This is from the veiwpoint of a former hardcore player who's since become casual due to work and family obligations.)

They should just make up a new mode called Insanity Mode. In this mode, Bosses have triple the amount of hit points and have an enrage timer of 5 minutes, and can one shot non tanks and 3 shot regular tanks unless the enitre raid stands in a small green circle in less than 5 seconds and stays there for at least 10. Also the last boss has a .01% chance to drop a gold plated Mount and a 10% chance to drop your very own HK 47 pet that follows you around fleet and randomly spouts HK-47-speak at you.

Would that be good enough for the hardcore raiders out there?

this post is bad and you should feel bad.

Exactly. WoW existed long before it really took off several years later. It wasn't just released and instantly gained 10 millions subscriptions. So who stuck with the game all that time and created sites like thottbot, wowwikki and elitist jerks? Certainly not the casuals because most of them arrived during WotLK.

This game doesn't have much (if any) community because short of rolling alts there's no reason to stick around and make one.