WOW really made me appreciate SWTOR

SWTOR's main advantage compared to WoW is not the voice acting, but the fact that, other than in WoW, FPs and PvP are not completely pointless before max level. In SWTOR there is at least so much balance, that one has to group for succesfully playing an FP. In WoW there are classes that can solo dungeons, or fight a complete army of mobs + boss at once without even losing health or mana; while other classes struggle even to perform their natural task in a group.

Also, my PvP encounters in SWTOR were rather balanced. I lost fights, of course. But not in a multiple stun lock without being able to perform one single action; nobody has the ability to freeze a complete army 4 times in a row like in WoW. No mixed classes here that tank+DPS+self-heal in a manner that outperforms everything else at once.

The main advantage of SWTOR compared to WoW is that it seems to care about balance, both in PvE and PvP. Not saying that balance is perfect here, but WoW is no longer bearable in this aspect.

double post sorry

I enjoyed both games but comparing the two at this point is like comparing apples to oranges. Sure they might both be fruit but past that there are few similarities. SWTOR is still in its infancy, those that cannot see that and expect it to be just as fleshed out as a game such as WoW are either foolishly optimistic or living in a dream world.

I did not play WoW when it was released, however from everything I had heard, leveling was a massive grind and it was extremely hard to even locate where the quests were located (I did have some experience with this), the mini-raids that you were expected to run to get gear for raids were extremely time consuming and possibly a bit overtuned for most. Raids were basically Zerg fests where you had to find up to 40 people and then micromanage them through the mechanics.

If you enjoyed that sort of thing then that's wonderful, I'm not bashing it. However, it is 2012, the world will be ending in less than a year and for the most part, game companies want their games to reach the largest base of people as possible, which would be the "casual" gamer. The people who work full time and only have a couple hours max to put into their game, the people who go to school full time and may only have time to play on the weekends etc etc. This player base would become extremely disillusioned if they had to spend months just gearing a single character before they could participate in the "endgame" content.

Basically, since I'm pretty sure I've gone quite a bit away from the original topic of my post by now, all I'm trying to say is that these two games are in fact two seperate games. If you enjoy one more than the other great, go play that game until something else sparks your interest. The constant bickering back and forth about which is better is a giant waste of time and resources as it all boils down to the individuals opinion.

Totally agree. Nvere thought about that

I feel like I'm the only one here who has never played WoW.

Tell that to the Sith Sorceres facerolling in PvP and PvE alike, and the operatives/scoundrels having such a hard time just to keep up.

Kind of hard to assume that there is balance in PvE when there are no damage counters/recount in the game.

Not a word.

Browse through the healing forums. You will see many, many detailed posts about the differences between healing classes. Or check out the Jedi forums. There are big differences in threat gen between Guardians and Vanguards, for example.

WoW has (and will always have) balancing problems because the classes are much more narrowly defined.

SWTOR sidestepped this issue (pretty cleverly, too) by having much broader classes and mirrors across faction. That makes it much easier to balance.

I do agree that flashpoints and PvP seem more meaningful while leveling in TOR than they do in WoW (old twinks excepted, of course).

I won't post a book that everyone has to read like so many people do; Instead I will just say this:

This game has been out for 3 months.

Bye now.