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LordNimvaruss
02.27.2012 , 09:41 PM | #431
Quote: Originally Posted by BobaFurz View Post
Swtor Playerbase


...a gif says thousand words:

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Rofl omg to funny. That my good sir just made my day
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dschlan
02.27.2012 , 09:47 PM | #432
Quote: Originally Posted by Caeliux View Post
I stopped right there, you are comparing and when you compare then you fail. Your exceptions are set too high, therefore you are blinded.

When you decide to not to compare then talk to me, until then look at SWTOR the way that suits u.

But don't feed BS.
No, when you think that saying it doesn't matter that it's a WoW clone makes sense, you fail. if you're not going to read the whole thing, don't even bother replying. It saves those of us with intelligence some time. If you HAD read, you would know that we have every right to expect quality in this day and age. Why should I not expect quality from something that is literally copy/paste from WoW and has been in development for SIX YEARS? How can you not compare a WoW CLONE to the game it COPIED?

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Caeliux
02.27.2012 , 09:47 PM | #433
Quote: Originally Posted by LordNimvaruss View Post
So let me try and understand what your saying. Your saying that for 6yr of develpoment that 3 ****y WZs illum which is a joke and 2 Raids are acceptable endgame content??

You sir must not have played many MMOs or atleaast not any good ones.
Name one game that has had brilliant PvP it's first 2 months?

I can, DAOC.

Since then there has been nothing else, nothing.

I have played tons of mmo's, EQ, DAOC, STAR TREK, SWG, AOC, AION, WAR, RIFT, WOW, ROHAN, LAST CHOES, to name a few.

And the engame you see is not endgame, its the begining. Have you ever heard of updates and more content on way?

Have you been reading what is coming soon?

Do you people really read into anything this game is going?

DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YA?
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Tenzoo
02.27.2012 , 09:47 PM | #434
Quote: Originally Posted by dschlan View Post
Oh snaps... where is the pre-order button?

Lets hope they stay true to that formula and subtract the pvp portion because we all know thats just going to be a farm fest like ilum.

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dschlan
02.27.2012 , 09:50 PM | #435
Quote: Originally Posted by Tenzoo View Post
Oh snaps... where is the pre-order button?

Lets hope they stay true to that formula and subtract the pvp portion because we all know thats just going to be a farm fest like ilum.
Sarcasm? I hope so cause it's thankfully nothing like Ilum, think DAoC 2.0

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Caeliux
02.27.2012 , 09:53 PM | #436
Quote: Originally Posted by dschlan View Post
No, when you think that saying it doesn't matter that it's a WoW clone makes sense, you fail. if you're not going to read the whole thing, don't even bother replying. It saves those of us with intelligence some time. If you HAD read, you would know that we have every right to expect quality in this day and age. Why should I not expect quality from something that is literally copy/paste from WoW and has been in development for SIX YEARS? How can you not compare a WoW CLONE to the game it COPIED?
When you use words like copy and paste, you show yourself to be a critic and a dooms day sayer.

OMG YEAR 2000 IS END OF THE WORLD!

If you walk into a game and look for flaws, and look for things other mmo have, and try to compare apples to oranges, then you are selling yourself short.

I can care less if you stay or you go, but stop with this BS that SWTOR is some crappy game made up to get money only and walk away. Warcraft is a fantastic game, and has been around almost 8 years.

It took years for that game to improve, and let me tell you Vanilla had alot more hatred and had more problems than SWTOR could ever think of. Even TBC Warcraft was horrific its first couple of months with all the bugs, lag, people exploiting, ect.

My point is stop comparing, and stop with the inquisition that SWTOR is garbage, cause over 2 millon subs would tell you they are here.

Just think your paying a sub to complain about your sub, ironic huh.
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maticlandarr
02.27.2012 , 09:56 PM | #437
Quote: Originally Posted by fixit View Post
If you started pre-release and still don't have a 50 even if casual, I don't know what say. I know people who only play maybe 6-8 hours a week who have lvl 50s. Do you log on for 15 mins and do half a quest or something?

Any rate, I have a long attention span generally when it comes to games; all that matters is if the game is engaging enough to keep me occupied. WoW did it for 7+ years. Rift did it for 7 months. Just to name a few out of the dozens I have played over the past 20 years.

Lets get to the point. Ilum is fail, possibly worst open world PvP 'lake' I seen. Not only does it lag, it's all about kill trading to get a daily/weekly done; there is absolutely nothing competive or interesting about it. What if there was resource nodes in it or even faction wide buffs depending on control? If there was such things, Ilum would actually serve a purpose and thus people would go there outside of quests. No can't have that. W/e. not like this engine/server structure can even support mass PvP at all. Mmmm slide show PvP, so much fun.

So in the end all you have for PvP is 3 WZs which is actually only one since it's 90% Huttball for me. It's also limited to 8 v 8, which yet again proves that by design this is the cap for performance: go past that and it starts to chug, even on the best of systems. Yes, we have a MMO that is only capable of having console type match numbers. Where did that 200m actually go? I think they got majorly ripped off, imo. Anyways, we will never see AV type venue, it would be unplayable. Proof? Ilum.

W/e, I agree: play a lot like me and most would get bored. But in other MMOs, I played just as much infact maybe more and kept me going for years. Here? 2 months. Cool!

Anyways, I made mistake in a) buying CE b) buying 4 time cards; you are stuck with me on the forums for almost a year even if I will be playing other titles. Have to get my moneys worth somehow, right? Don't get it in game, that's for sure.
Ive been playing since launch and have zero 50s. I got laid a lot though.

Btw nice wall of text that no one will ever read.

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LordNimvaruss
02.27.2012 , 09:58 PM | #438
Quote: Originally Posted by Caeliux View Post
Name one game that has had brilliant PvP it's first 2 months?

I can, DAOC.

Since then there has been nothing else, nothing.

I have played tons of mmo's, EQ, DAOC, STAR TREK, SWG, AOC, AION, WAR, RIFT, WOW, ROHAN, LAST CHOES, to name a few.

And the engame you see is not endgame, its the begining. Have you ever heard of updates and more content on way?

Have you been reading what is coming soon?

Do you people really read into anything this game is going?

DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YA?
Hmm lets take a look shale we. I have 2 50s already with casual play. MY guild is already farming Hard and Nightmare modes because there is nothing better to do. And to top it all off im starting to see valor rank 70+ every where because the endgame is so pathetic the only thing you can do is que up for the same 3 crapy WZs.

Oh and did i mention the games only been out 2 months??

I could care less where you think this game is going all you have to do is look at the servers there pop is droping fast you can sit there and preach about updates and Expansion Packs all day long but the fact of the matter is they spent 6yr on this game for nothing unless they plan on releasing and Expansion pack in the next 2 months or so.

To be a hundred percent honest with you i think they should have made it harder to get to lvl 50 i might not be so burnt out on this game.

You said you played DAoC tell me do you remember how long it use to take to get to lvl 50 Pre Shrouded Isles?
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Telaan
02.27.2012 , 09:59 PM | #439
Quote: Originally Posted by Evuke View Post
When reading someones opinion on the status of TOR have a look at their join date first, if it's before late 2011 chances are they're a devout star wars fan looking at the game through rose colored glasses and in their eyes TOR can do no wrong.

No offense is intended and it is a generalization, but for the same reason i wouldn't go running up to Dallas Cowboys fan and ask them what the best football team is, i won't be paying to much attention to your opinions on the status of TOR when they are clearly biased.
My join date is 2008. I think Ilum is the most poorly designed world PvP mechanic in the history of MMOs. I think resolve is absolute trash. I think BW made a huge mistake making so many damn servers at launch to appease the impatient whiners who couldn't be bothered to wait in a line. I will be playing GW2 when it is released.

I am a Star Wars fanboi. I still have fun in this game.

You are as biased as you claim others to be. The sky is not falling.
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dschlan
02.27.2012 , 10:00 PM | #440
Quote: Originally Posted by Caeliux View Post
When you use words like copy and paste, you show yourself to be a critic and a doom day sayer.

If you walk into a game and look for flaws, and look for things other mmo have, and try to compare apples to oranges, then you are selling yourself short.

I can care less if you stay or you go, but stop with this BS that SWTOR is some crappy game made up to get money only and walk away. Warcraft is a fantastic game, and has been around almost 8 years.

It took years for that game to improve, and let me tell you Vanilla has alot more hatred and has more problems than SWTOR could ever think of. Even TBC Warcraft was horrific its first couple of months with all the bugs, lag, people exploiting, ect.

My point is stop comparing, and stop with the inquisition that SWTOR is garbage, cause over 2 millon subs would tell you they are here.

Just think your paying a sub to complain about your sub, ironic huh.
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Over 2 million subs...hahahaha that just shows your ignorance.

It's not apples and oranges, it's WoW in Space. I don't know how you fail to see that, I guess you're just a blind fanboi. SWTOR IS a crappy game made to make money. EA did the exact same thing with WAR. Once servers start merging, BOOM, gg SWTOR.

You can't compare WoW's launch to SWTOR's. Why? It's been SEVEN YEARS. So much has changed that there has to be a level of quality or people will just go back to WoW or wait for other MMOs. That level of quality is obviously not there

I didn't go in looking for flaws or things other MMOs have. gear grind? Check. Boring quest grind? Check. Poorly designed raids that are laughably easy even on Nightmare? Check. Piss-poor open world PvP? Check. Stale WZ PvP? Check. They're evident to anyone who isn't blind with SWTOR fanboiness.

You talk about adding content and expansions...why should I wait for crappy patches and an xpac when I can get the same game at higher quality by playing WoW? Or when there's multiple AAA MMOs coming out this year?

As for my own sub...who says I'm still subbed?