Nobody in the Galaxy can swim

See my earlier post about how LA discredited the whole notion that blasters and lightsabers wouldn't work in water.

My point is that the game doesn't need everything that WoW has, and that including everything that WoW has would jepardize this game being itself. Further, even WoW didn't have everything on the list when it released in the first place, and TOR should be allowed to create itself in its own image and not WoWs image.

There are some things that WoW did that, to be honest, were mistakes best learned from.

I tend to sometimes give really short answers because the long answer is....complicated and, well, long and still doesn't fully convey what I mean.

Once again, I wasn't talking about WoW.

For your failure at basic reading comprehension
/facepalm

I would rather remain blissfully ignorant!

There are no deep pools of water in the star wars universe because the Star Wars god didn't see fit to put them in the universe!

I would agree with you on the game not needing everything WoW has, but most of the things listed (swimming included) would actually enhance the game. It just appears to me that they put all their money on story alone and assumed everyone would be ok with that.

I am not ok with it. I am angry at Bioware for taking my favorite IP (with all the resources they could get) and giving us half of WoW in a star wars theme with added voice dialog.

Like I said earlier, when you think about it there isn't much an an MMO that is actually required. So we have to be careful when determining whether something is "needed" or not.

Also, I think the devs would disagree with the assumption that including WoW elements would jeopardise the game:

“Every MMO that comes out, I play and look at it. And if they break any of the WoW rules, in my book that’s pretty dumb." - Dr Greg Zeschuk, co-founder of Bioware.

However I will agree that TOR should have it's own identity, but more importantly it needs to maintain an healthy sub level too. Which means including elements that people have found appealing in other games......like swimming, and other things.

Swimming or not being in TOR I'm actually looking forward GW2 underwater content a lot.


Now more related to what TOR could do easily is adding 3D exploration to the game like transforming jetpacks from anvils to usable items that allow character to either reach higher grounds or land safely from very high heights.

And I'm not speaking of flying mounts here but more like enhanced exploration with jetpacks, force powers, grappling hooks, climbing, parachutes and so on.

While now we have hovering speeders that gets stuck hitting a one feet high rock or damaging your character from a 6 feet fall..

ROFL. Amendment in red

Whether you are talking about WoW or Anarchy Online (yes that had an underwater zone too) or any other MMO, the point still stands:

Content doesn't HAVE to be mandatory. In fact, variety and options in content can appeal to a wider audience than forcing players to do something that they don't like.

Using Jetpacks: Kind of like a jump which gains extra height?
Jetpacks could conceivably be used underwater too, as a form of personal propulsion.
And for classes which dont use a jetpack, then they could use a small underwater vehicle (I think I remember them using them in the Clone Wars series).

Using grappling hooks: The funny thing is, there is already a form of grappling hook system in the game, which is used specifically for getting to some datacrons. So the concept exists. It's just a matter of putting more "grappling points" in the game.


So in essence, these kind of things help to enrich the game by giving players more activities to do. And thus, potentially help them to remain subscribed to the product for longer.