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Are androids and Iphones declared as "required" for playing this game?

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Are androids and Iphones declared as "required" for playing this game?

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terminova
02.27.2012 , 04:18 AM | #201
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The world doesn't revolve solely around the people with security keys, either. Which is what BW seems to think.
World doesn't revolve around what the SKV sells, either.
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I support...wait, which thread is this? Sorry, I'm following a lot of flame wars at the moment. Uh, oh yeah, clicking!

I support clicking!

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Youmu
02.27.2012 , 04:20 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
World doesn't revolve around what the SKV sells, either.
Certainly not, but it would seem that BW's dev priorities do.

"welp, there's something for that on SKV, no hurry with this issue"

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Leggomy
02.27.2012 , 04:51 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Youmu View Post
Certainly not, but it would seem that BW's dev priorities do.

"welp, there's something for that on SKV, no hurry with this issue"
Its really not an issue to anyone but you. I have never seen anyone but yourself complain about this. So ya I think their priorities are in order. We have bugs that stop people from even logging into the game. This is a non-issue.

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Goretzu
02.27.2012 , 04:52 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
Statistics are made up on the spot 75% of the time.
But in this case it takes you from wherever you are straight to the Fleet so that's at least 50% of your journey, so at least 50% better than not having it.


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I can do the same with the Emergency Fleet Pass, so there isn't an improvement.
Once every 18 hours. Once ever hour is a huge (1800%) improvement over that! Unless you're a Time Lord maybe...... are you a Time Lord?



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You didn't even read my post.
What post?

Either the Fleet Pass is a draw to the security key vendor (in which case the game travel system needs improving) or it isn't a draw (in which case everyone may as well have access to it anyway).

It's pretty simple.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Leggomy
02.27.2012 , 04:56 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Either the Fleet Pass is a draw to the security key vendor (in which case the game travel system needs improving) or it isn't a draw (in which case everyone may as well have access to it anyway).

It's pretty simple.
The draw is to get people to use the security feature. You really think that Bioware makes money off the $4 key or the free app? They dont want to deal with hacked accounts and offering people something they can use as incentive is not a statement on the entire travel system. I dont even get it I can use quick travel and port right to the spaceport area and boom right on my ship. Maybe 2 minutes time tops. The fleet passes (temp ones) are simply a convience. I havent even purchased one because I dont see the point.

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Goretzu
02.27.2012 , 05:00 AM | #206
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Sorry but I just have to laugh whenever someone complains about travel time in TOR. Spending 5 minutes to get to planet from planet is not a significant time drain. Those who complain otherwise has either never played another MMO where traveling is truly a chore or they just have no sense of time, period. In fact, I just timed myself the other day. Getting from the Combat Training section of Imperial Fleet Station to the Shuttle landing pad on the surface of Ilum took all of 2:56 seconds. And I don't even have a top of the line rig to lower the zone loading time.

This isn't Star Trek. There is no widespread "beam me up" option. Fleet pass is not an essential part of the game since traveling is not that time consuming in the first place.

There's apparently a shuttle me up option every hour though (so there is a Star Wars option)...... only just on the security key vendor.

Which is the issue.

I guess next there'll be summoning scolls only on the SKV?





The travel times in SWTOR are ok the first time you go any where.

They are NOT ok:

- On the 1000th time you've travelled somewhere

- When you need to get somewhere to help a guildie on a one off quest

- When you actually need to get somewhere in a hurry more than once every 18 hours

- Any time you are sent on an R&R "quest"


The number of thread about these things since Beta is astonomical, as are the number of people that reference these things in "I quit" threads.

Bioware would be daft to thing their current travel system is fit for purpose, it's just a case of whether they want more subs in total or more people with security keys.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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RivinHal
02.27.2012 , 05:01 AM | #207
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Its really not an issue to anyone but you. I have never seen anyone but yourself complain about this. So ya I think their priorities are in order. We have bugs that stop people from even logging into the game. This is a non-issue.
That is a blatent lie. I also disagree with it, as I'd bet many others do. Why should Smartphone users get something for free that is unavailable to me (since they don't sell the keygens where I live) because I don't have the money to buy some cellphone?

I'd have no issue if they keygens were offered to everyone or if the Smartphone users had to pay as well.

Why should I have to pay for something and they get it for free for having more of a disposable income than I do? Its ridiculous.

I mean it's not something astronomical but it's still disagreeable to some and although I love this game, it makes me wonder about BW.

It'd be different if everyone had access is the point......

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Goretzu
02.27.2012 , 05:02 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
The draw is to get people to use the security feature. You really think that Bioware makes money off the $4 key or the free app? They dont want to deal with hacked accounts and offering people something they can use as incentive is not a statement on the entire travel system. I dont even get it I can use quick travel and port right to the spaceport area and boom right on my ship. Maybe 2 minutes time tops. The fleet passes (temp ones) are simply a convience. I havent even purchased one because I dont see the point.

That's exactly my point.

For this to BE a draw to get access to the security key vendor SWTORs general travel system has to be unfit for purpose (and the Devs have to know it).

If it was fit for purpose then it wouldn't be a draw.

It's a strange descion to saddle a game with a very poor travel system, just to get more security keys used.
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NRieh
02.27.2012 , 05:08 AM | #209
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Its really not an issue to anyone but you. I have never seen anyone but yourself complain about this.
Well, the fact that YOU never seen "something" really means that "the something" does not exist, does it?

And, once again - it does not change a major problem, that stetement in official stuff's QA was kinda false. Which was proved here already - you can manage to read few pages back if you like, to find out how and where those are "easily avalibe".

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Leggomy
02.27.2012 , 05:11 AM | #210
Someone explain to me how its so excessive just to hit quick travel to spaceport and then walk to your ship. Takes maybe 2 minutes. Then click map and travel to fleet another couple of seconds. I mean how much hand holding do you need?