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Strong "Silver" Enemies are Getting Rediculous.

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Strong "Silver" Enemies are Getting Rediculous.

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dashspeed
02.26.2012 , 07:48 PM | #101
It's all in the perspective.

This game is very well balanced when it comes to difficulty. Thing is, we mostly get around Normal and what I call "normal silver" mobs. There are silver ones that are a bit tougher.

What changes is our strategy. We can use the same 4-5 skills for everything, but then we get pissed off when that strategy doesn't work on harder mobs, so we uselessly pop all CDs without thinking and end up dying.

EVERY time I've died to a "ridiculously hard" mob, the second, or third attempt, was MUCH more easier, after having thought out what to do with the encounter and how to proceed with caution.

Please, Bioware, don't listen to people who say it's too hard. This type of game needs a challenge where a 1-2 deaths should be normal before understanding how to deal with a harder mob.

It just makes killing it much more satisfactory.

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iResist
02.26.2012 , 07:54 PM | #102
pff i hit level 50 on my powertech tanking spec and destroyed all silver and gold mobs without any difficulty at all (using healing companion)... I could go from mob group to mob group and even pull an extra strong mob that was patrolling and never have a problem. Didn't matter what 'type' of strong mob it was, they are all face rollovers as tank spec with a healing companion.

Even take out Champions with ease.


The only time I had a problem killing a mob was a gold elite on Voss, he was called Avatar of selma-kor, I believe, in the nightmare lands, part of the world arc quests. He did mainly lightning damage and would hit for like 3k hp in a hit.

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Drake_Hound
02.26.2012 , 08:02 PM | #103
I honestly think the 40+ area needs to be rebalanced for solo play .

While the difficulty in the first month was set to stop hardcore gamers .
They forgot what is annoying for hardcore gamers , is almost impossible for the casual gamers.

Sure when people group and are adequate nothing is difficult .
But when the casual gamers hit the 40 undergeared , underequiped lack of skills.
Some of them might quit , and most of them already did .

There is a badly rebalance needed on republic Belsavis , Voss and Corellia .
Empire side Taris Voss and Corellia .
Not to mention the Illum solo part .

Also the republic side Hoth deeply needs to be looked at , especially the heroic 4 .
Since those mobs are slightly way overpowered for the average gamers group .
Remember Bioware did rebalance Mandelorain Raiders and Cademimu Foundry Maelstorm etc , based on the group fail and success rates .

They should also look into that for casual gamers .

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ztee
02.26.2012 , 08:05 PM | #104
Im pretty sure you just need to L2P. I know it sounds blunt and harsh, but there is no way that 2 silver mobs are an issue. The only time it can become remotely dodgy is if they heal each other.

Most companions have some form of CC, learn to use it.

This kind of thing needs to stay in the game, it would becoming stupidly easy if silvers and gold got nerfed.

If anything, buff some of the golds and named champions around.

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Grotpar
02.26.2012 , 08:09 PM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by iResist View Post
pff i hit level 50 on my powertech tanking spec and destroyed all silver and gold mobs without any difficulty at all (using healing companion)... I could go from mob group to mob group and even pull an extra strong mob that was patrolling and never have a problem. Didn't matter what 'type' of strong mob it was, they are all face rollovers as tank spec with a healing companion.

Even take out Champions with ease.


The only time I had a problem killing a mob was a gold elite on Voss, he was called Avatar of selma-kor, I believe, in the nightmare lands, part of the world arc quests. He did mainly lightning damage and would hit for like 3k hp in a hit.
That's because you're playing a tank.

Leveling as a tank is easy as hell. You don't even need a healing companion(during normal encounters, and even elites), a dps companion will do just fine as well.

Leveling as a healer is also very easy. I leveled my Sorc all the way to 50 as a healer.

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Drake_Hound
02.26.2012 , 08:10 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by ztee View Post
Im pretty sure you just need to L2P. I know it sounds blunt and harsh, but there is no way that 2 silver mobs are an issue. The only time it can become remotely dodgy is if they heal each other.

Most companions have some form of CC, learn to use it.

This kind of thing needs to stay in the game, it would becoming stupidly easy if silvers and gold got nerfed.

If anything, buff some of the golds and named champions around.
I think you havenīt hit 50 yet ... Cause I bet you those champions are not so easy solo able , infact requires a lot of skills ..

Think the OP hit the famous Voss 2 technician fight in the bonus chain, the one that is very easy for people with incombat CC , very hard for those without in combat CC .

But then again are you able to solo the heroic 4 endboss champion on your daily
Or just run in run out alone

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Samborino
02.26.2012 , 08:10 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by ElFlamaBlanca View Post
Look I am all for difficult games, but these mob types are just annoying, they do more damage than elites half the time. I spend majority of my time spam healing my companion because if he dies I am going to get 5 shotted by this stupid mob type.

Maybe I just suck, maybe my class is just underpowered. Honestly I don't care either way, I don't know about you guys but I don't want to spend two hours destroying four rebel supply boxes for some weak reward.

Difficult should stay in flashpoints and operations and even class quests, but the stupidly boring normal quests should not take a thought out strategic plan to accomplish.
This probably has to do with your gear, and also the fact that your not interupting their abilities.

Pro tip : Interupt their abilities , it will do wonders. I told my friend who's new to mmo's about interupting abilities for strong mobs a few days ago, he has no complaints now and it isnt an issue for him anymore.

Also i dont agree that they do more damage then elites , some elites have ridiculous abilities (i like it) that say you stand in their aoe for 2 seconds your at half health, almost all elites have more health and stronger abilities and the same rule applies, interupt interupt interupt.

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Grotpar
02.26.2012 , 08:13 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
This probably has to do with your gear, and also the fact that your not interupting their abilities.

Pro tip : Interupt their abilities , it will do wonders. I told my friend who's new to mmo's about interupting abilities for strong mobs a few days ago, he has no complaints now and it isnt an issue for him anymore.

Also i dont agree that they do more damage then elites , some elites have ridiculous abilities (i like it) that say you stand in their aoe for 2 seconds your at half health, almost all elites have more health and stronger abilities and the same rule applies, interupt interupt interupt.
Interrupting in this game is very dodgy, though.
I've noticed that many times my interrupting(as an Inquisitor) is slightly delayed.

And I am running around with less than 50ms pretty much constantly. I imagine it's even worse for people who aren't enjoying such good pings.

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ztee
02.26.2012 , 08:17 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Drake_Hound View Post
I think you havenīt hit 50 yet ... Cause I bet you those champions are not so easy solo able , infact requires a lot of skills ..

Think the OP hit the famous Voss 2 technician fight in the bonus chain, the one that is very easy for people with incombat CC , very hard for those without in combat CC .

But then again are you able to solo the heroic 4 endboss champion on your daily
Or just run in run out alone
I have 2 50's, one BM and full rakata (and multiple lvl 20 - 30's) ....

i admit, the first time around it was harder, but it wasnt HARD.

In fact, i found levelling my marauder a lot easier than the sentinel (notice here i dont really have any CC other than AWE and force choke, hence the statement around companions CC). There are so many champions named mobs around that are completely soloable during the entire levelling process - and yes they are easier than 2 silvers - its just a stupid HP increase.

And no, why would i solo my heroic 4 daily - they are working as intended (groups of 3 golds and 2 silvers) ...

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Drake_Hound
02.26.2012 , 08:23 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by ztee View Post
I have 2 50's, one BM and full rakata (and multiple lvl 20 - 30's) ....

i admit, the first time around it was harder, but it wasnt HARD.

In fact, i found levelling my marauder a lot easier than the sentinel (notice here i dont really have any CC other than AWE and force choke, hence the statement around companions CC). There are so many champions named mobs around that are completely soloable during the entire levelling process - and yes they are easier than 2 silvers - its just a stupid HP increase.

And no, why would i solo my heroic 4 daily - they are working as intended (groups of 3 golds and 2 silvers) ...
Well if you canīt solo your heroic 4 , how would you say champions need a buff
Or did you do the champions on corellia ?

Well if you love HARD then you should try to solo H4 especially in rataka gear and rataka gear companion , since the 2 strong shouldnīt be a problem , and you companion has CC right

Or you not as HARD as you say you are are.