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EU Servers and the unofficial language

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Maidel
02.26.2012 , 05:45 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Telendria View Post
the general chat is called General, not English channel. If you want english only channel, you and english-only speaking community can make one, noone is stoppping you.
So if you went onto the German or French servers and constantly spoke English in general chat you think they would all be fine with that?

Of course not. It's exclusive. As in it excludes people. General chat is supposed to be for everyone to converse with everyone else on the planet. Using it to speak in languages the rest of the players can't speak defeats the entire point.

People don't play on the ENGLISH server only to be made to feel its necessary to start up an English only chat channel! That's like starting a forum for starwars and the because people joined up wanting to fill the forum with startrek chat you had to make a private sub forum for starwars!

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Telendria
02.26.2012 , 06:16 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
So if you went onto the German or French servers and constantly spoke English in general chat you think they would all be fine with that?

Of course not. It's exclusive. As in it excludes people. General chat is supposed to be for everyone to converse with everyone else on the planet. Using it to speak in languages the rest of the players can't speak defeats the entire point.

People don't play on the ENGLISH server only to be made to feel its necessary to start up an English only chat channel! That's like starting a forum for starwars and the because people joined up wanting to fill the forum with startrek chat you had to make a private sub forum for starwars!
If they introduce dedicated servers for other languages (that don't even have to be localized, it's just a label in server selection list anyway...), then you may have a point. Until then, anyone who feels like talking in his/her own language should be allowed to.

And I have yet to see any rule, that prohibits using other languages in general chat other than english/french/german, so unless you can show me the rule (and not your own interpretation of other rules that have nothing to do with other languages), then it's moot point anyway.

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Twisteddm
02.27.2012 , 05:20 AM | #43
The server language is simply the language the game ui and information is presented in, not the language to be used on that server.

Nowhere in the Terms and Conditions or EULA does it specifically state that a particular language is required to be used on any given server and until Bioware or EA decide to implement this a policy, your opinion is simply that, an opinion and no more worthy of consideration than anyone else.

As an Englishman living in Denmark and spending the majority of my time playing with my Danish wife, I will speak whatever language I choose to, English when I am dealing with English people, or Danish if I am playing/talking with Danish friends. I am not breaking any rules by doing so and will not care on jot if it upsets somebody who can't understand what I am saying, because as someone already pointed out, if you can't understand what's being said, it probably isn't any of your business anyway.

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LightShad
02.27.2012 , 05:27 AM | #44
Well it depends a lot on the reaction of some and how you say it in chat.

As dutch we are crippled by the system so we have to turn of the maturity filter just to be able to speak dutch. sometimes people say something in dutch in general because of an error, you know chatsettings changed to general iso party.
Sometimes these are funny so people respond to them but there is also the usual person that has to go immediately "ffs english" or the likes normaly in caps to.

Im sure you can imagine the result of these responses on the chat. Im mature and ofcourse it is antisocial to start using another language for discussions in chat, but im not putting up with *****s that think they can order me around.

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Maidel
02.27.2012 , 05:30 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Twisteddm View Post
As an Englishman living in Denmark and spending the majority of my time playing with my Danish wife, I will speak whatever language I choose to, English when I am dealing with English people, or Danish if I am playing/talking with Danish friends. I am not breaking any rules by doing so and will not care on jot if it upsets somebody who can't understand what I am saying, because as someone already pointed out, if you can't understand what's being said, it probably isn't any of your business anyway.
But thats the point, you would be talking in guild chat, or on another channel, not all the time in general.

Quote: Originally Posted by Telendria View Post
And I have yet to see any rule, that prohibits using other languages in general chat other than english/french/german, so unless you can show me the rule (and not your own interpretation of other rules that have nothing to do with other languages), then it's moot point anyway.
ITs got nothing to do with my interpretation of the rules. The rule posted clearly says that anything disruptive to normal useage isnt allow. They have clearly used that rule on the forums to move or close threads written in other languages because as you have pointed out there isnt any other reason for them to close those threads.


And, anyway, the OP didnt say it was against the rules, merely that it was rude, which is another arguement all together.

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Deadpooled
02.27.2012 , 05:40 AM | #46
imo everyone should be able to speak whatever language they wish to in general chat....at least THAT way you'll know someone else is actually playing.

Also, the only way non-English/limited English TYPERS (they're not speaking....they may be able to converse perfectly well in english, but writing it is a totally different ballgame and judging by the vast amounts of posts on these forums I actually wonder how many ARE native English typers) can find anyone from thier own country is by typing in thier native language and see if anyone responds, like when Brits go over-sea's and expect the people to speak English because they ask the questions in THIER own language.

Also don't see anyone complaining about cut-scenes where the alien is speaking in thier own language, just because we get a translation, doesn't mean we know its correct and they could be insulting us, maybe BW/EA should make ALL the aliens on a ENGLISH server speak ENGLISH only.

Seriously, the world is huge, and for anyone to complain about non-English on an server cant drive very far....im 43, lived in UK all my life and if I speak to anyone from Newcastle, I dont have the faintest bloody idea what they are saying.

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Maidel
02.27.2012 , 05:46 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Deadpooled View Post

Also don't see anyone complaining about cut-scenes where the alien is speaking in thier own language, just because we get a translation, doesn't mean we know its correct and they could be insulting us, maybe BW/EA should make ALL the aliens on a ENGLISH server speak ENGLISH only.
You were doing so well until you made this analogy, which is completely silly. The game is made in a certain way, and even though they speak in gibberish, you get a translation, which completely invalidates the point.


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Seriously, the world is huge, and for anyone to complain about non-English on an server cant drive very far....im 43, lived in UK all my life and if I speak to anyone from Newcastle, I dont have the faintest bloody idea what they are saying.
Ah, another oldie like me...

And Ive never had an issue with people from Newcastle, its the scousers I cant understand!

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Syylara
02.27.2012 , 05:52 AM | #48
Sorry, you have no authority to tell other people what language they may or may not use in a general chat channel.

Calling other people "rude" for doing so is just an attempt to impose conformity on others.

Demanding people conform to your expected behavior is actually more rude and selfish, to me.

If you want chat that is free of other languages, start a chat channel, advertise it to others and turn general chat off in your tab settings.
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onnefalt
02.27.2012 , 05:52 AM | #49
I write in english but I get this alot; R U 12 or what? Can't U spell... Go back to school...
I'm just a stupid swede so my english isn't the best. I know that, you don't have to bother me about it, then I will bother you with writing in swedish.

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Maidel
02.27.2012 , 05:56 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Syylara View Post
Sorry, you have no authority to tell other people what language they may or may not use in a general chat channel.

Calling other people "rude" for doing so is just an attempt to impose conformity on others.
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Go play on an american server and try it.

OR on the german server and type in english.

Seriously, its not about making people 'conform' its about common decency. If you go to another country to live you damn well learn the language. You play on their server you write in their language.

Dont understand why thats so hard to comprehend, or why its so offensive?

Quote: Originally Posted by onnefalt View Post
I write in english but I get this alot; R U 12 or what? Can't U spell... Go back to school...
I'm just a stupid swede so my english isn't the best. I know that, you don't have to bother me about it, then I will bother you with writing in swedish.
Frankly your english is better than most of the people I have to deal with daily at work, and supposedly they are 'natives'.

I do so hate that word.