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LaVolpex
02.26.2012 , 05:08 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by EATtheDEAD View Post
hahaha! awesome. I would be surprised if that sort of tech didn't work under water. A blade that can cut through anything in existance and reflect laser blasts, but water makes it completely unusable... hahaha
ok ...im not goin to explain it all , but an overly simplified explanation of why they wouldnt work given what we know about LIGHTsabers ...

they focus light , on a beam , laser , whatever you wanna call it , and pretty much do so with so much intensity that they cut through anything...

given that there is not a single liquid that we know of that doesnt distort and refract light with its molecules , i think , if anything , it is feasible that they wouldnt work , or shouldnt work ..underwater

but lucas decided to ignore that in lieu of making a movie/entertainment , i dont blame him but thats sort of how light behaves/interacts with water , wich is the reason why you see the sky as blue and not black, because molecules in our upper atmosphere refract and diffuse the light giving the sky that lovely blue color, also they reason why you cant see starts at day even if they are there and should be visible but they arent

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Shuriko
02.26.2012 , 05:13 PM | #92
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if we cant go past our ankles, how will we bath?
We dont!
We take showers
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Arkerus
02.26.2012 , 05:13 PM | #93
I honestly don't care about swimming. Please don't waste dev time in this area.
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BlackZoback
02.26.2012 , 05:16 PM | #94
I have never enjoyed swimming in any game.

It's a complete waste of resources to put it in and I'm glad they left it out. Also if you haven't noticed swimming is not a feature in most BW games.

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jarjarloves
02.26.2012 , 05:31 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarka View Post
Firstly, players aren't necessarily wearing metal armour in the Star Wars universe. If memory serves me right, a lot of armour is actually a composite material.

Secondly, LA have proven in the Clone Wars series (as well as comics) that lightsabers and blaster fire DOES function correctly under water. Contrary to real world physics.

So I don't see a problem with the inclusion of swimming on those points.

Furthermore, it could be argued that the omision of swimming in the game attributes to diminishing the entire experience of feeling like you are IN the Star Wars universe. After all, swimming is experinced in the movies (Phantom Menace), animated series, comics and other Star Wars games. Possibly in books too.

Swimming and water is integral to both the Star Wars universe and our own. That is why the inclusion of swimming in deep water can actually assist with the illusion of it feeling "real". After all, that is entirely why these games use 3D graphics: to give the illusion of being INSIDE a gameworld.
..... so breaking real world physics makes the game feel more real?


Sorry no swimming IS NOT integral to the SW universe or really even ours.

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Ebbikenezer
02.26.2012 , 05:35 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarka View Post
Lol. It's always amusing to see someone try to cite real world physics. Using such logic:
  • Players would never hear explosions in space.
  • Characters couldn't use "the force".
  • Speederbikes would nose-dive into the ground the moment they set off.
My point is that there are situations whereby "real world" physics may not actually apply. Especially in a fictional universe. It all depends on the author's whim.

For instance, if LA made an episode in which lightsabers and some blasters can be used underwater, then that's pretty much a fact. And the simple fact is, they have. So what happens in the real world is irrelevant.
Well, since we're going that route:

The episode in Clone Wars happens many thousands of years AFTER our present game world era.

So maybe the tech hasn't been developed. Also, the only "swimming" in the movies was waist deep. So, that would be the same as well, since LA applied that to the lore?

I was plopping the lightsaber physics link down.... because some people are interested in such things and the conversation warranted it. (Can they be used underwater?)

No need to be a d-bag.
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can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out.

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Chaostie
02.26.2012 , 05:38 PM | #97
There's an ocean on Alderaan... You hit exhaustion zone pretty fast, but it's there.

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Ebbikenezer
02.26.2012 , 05:38 PM | #98
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Ofc it cant be true, either the engine is bad by default or BW messed up with it. We all trust EA and BW 100% so that CeO must be wrong.
I don't trust the CEOs of any of the three, your point being? I didn't mention any particular single CEO.... I referred to them in the plural. PLURAL. More than one. Several. Multiple.
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can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out.

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FourTwent
02.26.2012 , 05:52 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by EATtheDEAD View Post
I know it's this way because BW probably didn't know how to program something deeper that would need swimming for characters.
Really?

Instead of thinking Bioware ignored swimming just cause it would save resources(time and money) to just exclude it. . .since there's probably a very small minority that would actually care about it?

But you know?

You guys crack me up.

Personally I don't care, it's not like swimming is going to make or break the game. And if it was in there, you'd just see trolls complaining that they spend time and money developing an uber cool swimming system rather than focused on something else.

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fuzzyyoji
02.26.2012 , 06:25 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
..... so breaking real world physics makes the game feel more real?


Sorry no swimming IS NOT integral to the SW universe or really even ours.

phantom menace. they swim. not hip deep.

but really, what made make one of few posts is "or really even ours"...

you should think more before you type.

How is swimming Not Integral to our universe? I...I just don't get people like you. Some people make their LIVING SWIMMING! are you just being dense? Or are you just dense? If I'm making fun of someone...that's it's not PC to make fun of I'm so sorry. But I just realized you may be typing with help.

and to the op.
MMO's are supposed to be fully fleshed living breathing worlds. The fact that we can't swim breaks immersion. Failure. Can't cast immediately after moving either.

No MMO released in 2012 should have as many missing elements. Personally I'm back to AoC LOL.
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