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Let's talk about Arena tonight!

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Let's talk about Arena tonight!

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XapM
02.26.2012 , 06:33 AM | #41
All i see about Mordredz is a severe case of arenafobia - the irrational fear of a small-scaled PvP, based on a person's internal fear that community will see his personal rating and will know that person is, in fact, bad at PvP.

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Forsbacka
02.26.2012 , 06:39 AM | #42
You could link about same stats from high end rated BGs, and in future from high rated Wzs.

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Affics
02.26.2012 , 06:44 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by XapM View Post
"Also, current state of WoW Arena is irrelevant to the question. It's pathetic state is completely fault of Blizzard, as they took every decent developer to their new project and left WoW to an incompetent team who are unable to balance even minesweeper. Back when Blizzard cared about pvp, arena was fun with large numbers of players participating in it"

Read entire post before you post rubbish. Blizzard gave up on pvp somewhere at start of a cataclysm. It's current state has nothing to do with the Arena system itself.
Blizzard gave up after the end of 6 season, when disable 2v2 glad.
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Forsbacka
02.26.2012 , 06:44 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by mordredz View Post
Sorry to correct you, wait no im not, 70% hated arenas and the crap it brought, maybe a lil light reading would help you see this both on forums/polls and all sorts of informative things, educated yourself so you look less a tool in future posts champ, GL!
So, do you have any source to back your stupid comments up?

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Forsbacka
02.26.2012 , 06:47 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Affics View Post
Blizzard gave up after the end of 6 season, when disable 2v2 glad.
They disabled only titles from 2v2 which was right thing to do.

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MrXen
02.26.2012 , 07:03 AM | #46
Why is it people complain they don't have enough content, then when an idea for fun new content comes, everyone spits on it?


There is >NOTHING< wrong with arena's (whats wrong with you if you think there is, all i can say is hurt yourself irl). Seriously.


It'll be fun, its more pvp stuff to do, it'll give similar rewards, AND ITS ENTIRELY YOUR CHOICE TO PLAY IN THEM OR NOT.



Quit trying to ruin the game and stop anything from progressing.
"NO no no no no no no" is not helping anything.

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Dorkfrey
02.26.2012 , 07:37 AM | #47
I like PvP. What I don't like, is this "need" to get better gear from Arena.

It's like - why do you *have* to get better gear solely from Arena.

Why can't you have the same gear, and just proev you're better through skill alone?

Why must the *best* gear ONLY come from Deathmatching, which to be frank, I don't find the ebodiment of skill (however, I do find it very commonplace in WZ's because most children don't have the patience to focus on a goal, and must herp derp for kills, because that shows skill - no?).

Why when Blizzard have admitted that Arena was the biggest mistake they made, do you insist on copying it's mistakes? Having the best gear from Arena only forces people to do arena. It's a case of keeping up with the Joneses.

And to be honest, you're wrong about comps. Some comps will wreck most (if not all) others, assuming equal skill.

People on TOR PvP. In much larger numbers than Bioware expected, do you know why though? It's actually kind of good and relatively well balanced. Sure - there's a few hybrid specs that should be whack-a-moled, because they are too strong, but for the most part, things aren't BAD.

Ilum, that's another story. It's a joke. It's a bad joke at that.

The only thing I really agree with you on, is the notion that PvP'ers shouldn't be forced to PVE to get decent gear. The mods on the gearing right now are a joke, and some of the set bonuses are laughable too. Trying to repeat the same inane stupidity of WoW Arena and gearing up is laughable though. That's not the way forwards.

Have Arena, sure - but don't make it so that it's the *only* way to gear up best in PvP. That way, lies the same flaws as WoW Arena, and that was a joke.

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Taerrik
02.26.2012 , 07:41 AM | #48
My only issue is

Rated based pvp should be gear independant,

If your in arena, you choose dps/tank/heal gearset for your class, can mix match pieces how you choose, but the same gear is available to everyone

Let SKILL be the deciding factor, not TIME spent grinding rating

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wtfnonamefree
02.26.2012 , 07:51 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Dorkfrey View Post
It's like - why do you *have* to get better gear solely from Arena.

Why can't you have the same gear, and just proev you're better through skill alone?

Why must the *best* gear ONLY come from Deathmatching, which to be frank, I don't find the ebodiment of skill (however, I do find it very commonplace in WZ's because most children don't have the patience to focus on a goal, and must herp derp for kills, because that shows skill - no?).

Why when Blizzard have admitted that Arena was the biggest mistake they made, do you insist on copying it's mistakes? Having the best gear from Arena only forces people to do arena. It's a case of keeping up with the Joneses.
Why do you assume, that the implementation of arenas in itself equals to implementing BiS gear solely obtainable via arenas? I, personally, would welcome it, but understand the arguments against and can live with the compromise of not getting BiS gear through arena.

Why do you parrot that infamous "blizz regrets implementing arenas" statement out of context? Is it because you just heard it and never bothered to look up, if it is even true?
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XapM
02.26.2012 , 08:00 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Dorkfrey View Post
I like PvP. What I don't like, is this "need" to get better gear from Arena.

It's like - why do you *have* to get better gear solely from Arena.

Why can't you have the same gear, and just proev you're better through skill alone?
Not solely from arena, but from rated WZ too. Play what you want, just dont give best possible gear to anyone herp-derping in a regular WZ.


Quote: Originally Posted by Dorkfrey View Post
Why when Blizzard have admitted that Arena was the biggest mistake they made, do you insist on copying it's mistakes? Having the best gear from Arena only forces people to do arena. It's a case of keeping up with the Joneses.
Again, not only arena. As for BLIZZARD SAID ARENA IS BAD LOLOLZ argument, it's getting old. What Blizzard really said, is if they'd know what arena would be, they would do many things other way. And they're right: First and foremost PvE and PvP should be set completely apart. No PvE gear in PvP and vice versa, some abilities and damage should be different in PvP and PvE. As an example - CC's 1 minute in PvE and 6 sec in PvP. The trauma mechanic, which is made to balance healers different in PvP and PvE and so on.

But that's a topic for another thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dorkfrey View Post
And to be honest, you're wrong about comps. Some comps will wreck most (if not all) others, assuming equal skill.
As i said in 1st post, as long as every class have a comp where it can play competitvely, everything is completely fine. Comps start to really matter only at highest ratings, where people play at cap of their classes capabilities. But 99,9% of arena haters won't make it to these ratings anyway.
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